LA Times editor implores ex-Californians to stop insulting the state on their way out

I'm going to go out on a limb and say some of the below people keep their properties nice and clean, but a lot of them do not. Plus I hear there are costly state programs for them. But hey, their kids will be able to vote.


https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/CA

 

Been there many times, used to visit my inlaws in Canoga park.. Really nice place then, twenty years later mexican Barrio..

 

Well that seems sad. I feel poorly that folks find themselves trapped in California but for their own fears

 

I'll bet the lawns look real nice now.

 

Wow, that seems pretty ugly.

 

I would encourage you to go to the more rural areas off of highways 15 and 215 and tell me what you see. If you're brave enough to get out of your car you might even encounter a meth lab.

 

Your presumption based on ethnicity is fairly ugly

 

It’s not an assumption. I drove through those areas for 21 years, I saw what I saw. I’ve seen meth lab fires, cops raiding illegal alien stash houses, and I’ve seen them fill up the parking lots of Lowes and Home Depot looking for untaxed day labor work. Some of them are fine people, others not so much.

 

Problem with Cali is the incredible taxation here. I love my job but that's all that's keeping me here at this point and with the years I've put into my district, I'd lose far more than I'd gain if I left now.

The plan is that when I retire in a few years, we're moving to - I dunno, Idaho, Colorado - somewhere. My wife says we should consider Mexico - on my pension, we could live like kings there and we certainly look like we could fit in there but ... *shrugs* All I know is that Cali would tax my retirement to the moon while other states, not so much. There's very few retiring teachers who openly talk about staying here. My son moved to Philadelphia and he's quite clear how much better life is there outside of his missing In-n-Out.

 

Why, the silver lining is they don't spread their paranoia beyond their zoo..

 

Oil stains, dog crap and barking pitbulls.. And police helicopters and spotlights, and the relaxing sound of 9mm rounds.

 

I forgot all about that stuff, but then again I've been gone since 2012. And you left out the frequent televised police chases that I used to watch in my office almost weekly.

 

A lot of California's problems (including restrictions on many freedoms) are due to high population density.

The state has undergone huge population growth, especially from around 1977 to 2019. Most of this was due to immigration from foreign countries, half of that illegal immigration.

The unique geography of the state also squeezes most of the state's population into a narrow area along the coast. If one goes more than about 30 miles inland, the climate quickly gets very hot and dry, unpleasantly so, during the summer half of the year.

 

Spent three weeks at my mom's place, bay area..

One thing that really stood out was the attitude of the police. Being from Wyo I'd see an officer walking a area with lots if folk and I'd be like wut up bro, and DAAAMMMMNNN cold as ice!

My lil bro, is a cop hater, along with alot of people, and police return the attitude. Cali is a stressful place, frigging no one is used to or appreciates comical banter at all.. The only freindly folks I ran into was Santa Cruz Beach and boardwalk, and they were from Georgia. We jokes about how much it cost to get theses folks to smile..

A perfect example of what Cali has become. You grab a burger or whatever and the bastards charge you a fee to dispose you paper, napkins and cup.. I told the dude at the counter that I'd take care of the trash so take the charge off.

DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS lmfao, ripoff bastards..

 

Then again go far enough east you get the seirra mountians, their nice, father in law has a nice place up from Porterville..

 

Where on earth were you charged to dispose of your napkins?

 

Every place I ate in the bay area

 

Odd. I live in the bay area and have never experienced that.

 

It wouldn’t be ceded to me. Jefferson would become our own state. The fact is that the state has to spend far more here doing its state functions than it makes in tax revenues from here. We will always be a small drain on the state budget for economic reasons, and it’s not because we are poor here. We in the far north are willing to settle for just 5 counties (Siskiyou, Modoc, Lassen, Shasta, Tehama, and the highway 36 corridor in far northern Plumas) joining Idaho because it wouldn’t affect the senate or cost Ca a congressional seat or electoral vote, the same as the bordering Oregon counties wanting to join Idaho would t cost Oregon. The thing is the rural outlying conservative counties in Washington, Oregon, California have nothing in common with their liberal large urban population centers and live like people in Idaho or Montana do regardless whether the urbans like it or not.

 

No. We don’t want Sacramento or Stockton. The valley cutoff on I-5 would be between Arbuckle and Dunigan.

 

We have high poverty and it’s by far the worst in our big progressive cities where income inequality is the greatest. The rural counties they accuse of being poor and unable to take care of ourselves have the lowest poverty rates.


https://www.ppic.org/interactive/california-poverty-by-county-and-legislative-district/

 

Which is why I love it in UpstateCA, the Shasta Cascade region, an 8 county area about 20% of the size of the state with 1.5% of its population with only two cities over 22,000 population. Chico 102,000 and Redding 94,000. Nothing like what you describe.

 

Stu, nice post and I wish you would check in more often. As for you son, he’s not far from NJ where the best pizza in the world can be found.

 

I'll believe CA is going down the tube when cost to live there goes down.

 

Until it's time to pay your taxes or try to buy a new vehicle without some stupid emissions control that you have to pay extra for.... And then there is no stupid proposition 64 warning stickers on everything...

I bought a bag of wood chips for my smoker here in Florida and for some reason the state of California feels the need to warn me that they can give me cancer