Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ummmm, in this case, Israel are acting like the Nazis, so... your example is absurd. Do you have anything besides Chamberlain references? It is not even remotely applicable here. Your arguments so far have been "uhhhhh...WW2... Nazis... Kill everyone..."
     
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    How is Israel acting like Nazi Germany?
     
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    Better idea - 'israel' leaves the Middle East. :)
    This would be a nice place for New Israel:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

    Zionists will never find peace on the land that they claim today.
     
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    The goal of Hamas is to kill all Jews and destroy Israel. Your "better idea" matches the goal of Hamas exactly.

    Israel has been attacked continuously since 1948. That is why there has not been peace in the ME.
     
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    - people speaking out against the regime are being silenced, jailed and beaten
    - An entire culture are second class citizens, their ghetto deprived of basic resources and basic human rights.
    - slaughtering of civilians, including shooting civilians waving white flags and dropping bombs on hospitals, refugee camps, etc.
    - Stealing the wealth of the second class citizens they execute in cold blood
    - Dehumanization of an entire ethnic group.
    - massive censorship of the press.

    There is a few things to get you started.
     
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    Nope, nobody has to die if my idea would be applied.
    But if the Zionists continue to occupy Palestine, many more people will die than have already died. :(
     
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    All of that is not true.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is absolutely true. Get your head out of the sand and stop supporting the slaughter and oppression of the innocent.
     
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    Why don't the Arab countries relocate? Or better yet why doesn't Hamas and Iran commit to living in peace with Jews?
     
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    Since you believe that all your comparison of Israel with Nazi Germany is true please provide proof.

    Who is being jailed in Israel for speaking out?

    Where are the concentration camps where Arab Israeli citizens are being held?

    Arab Israeli citizens have equal rights in Israel.

    Who is stealing wealth?

    Who has dehumanized an entire ethnic group?

    Where is the massive censorship of the press?

    What citizens have been executed in cold blood?

    What you are describing is Hamas and Iran not Israel.
     
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    True! I would add that no Ukrainian would die if president Putin ideas were applied.
    Also, according to president Putin if Ukrainian Nazis continue to occupy Ukraine, many more people will die than have already died.
     
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    Zionist terror organizations like the Haganah and the Irgun were attacking indigenous Arabs and even their British protectors years before the Jewish state lurched into existence:

    https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-l...sh-zionist-terrorism-and-establishment-israel

    "TRACED CHRONOLOGICALLY, THE FORMATION OF THE HAGANAH, THE IRGUN AWAI LEUMI, AND THE LOHAMEI HERUT, THEIR MILITARY AND PARAMILITARY GROUPS, THEIR ORGANIZATION, LEADERSHIP PHILOSOPHY AND ACTIONS ARE SHOWN TO BE INSEPARABLE IN THEIR OPERATIONS AND THEIR STRONG ZIONIST AIMS.

    "THESE THREE GROUPS ATTACKED THE BRITISH ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR WHITE PAPER POLICY,

    "THE ARABS, HITLER, AND FOUGHT IN THEIR OWN CIVIL WAR. IN EXAMINING ASPECTS OF THEIR ROLE IN THE ULTIMATE CREATION OF A JEWISH STATE,

    "IT IS CONCLUDED THAT: (1) JEWISH TERRORISM AGAINST BRITISH AND ARABS DID CONTRIBUTE HEAVILY TO THE REMOVAL OF THE BRITISH FROM PALESTINE, THE ABANDONMENT OF THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS MANDATE AND THE CREATION OF A JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL"

    Zionism began as a settler-colonial movement committed to turning Palestine into a Jewish majority state in spite of the reality there were ten times as many non-Jews as Jews living there at that time.

    The only way such a racist program can succeed is through the terror of ethnic cleansing and genocide; that is that terror Hamas struck back against on October 7th.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever used google before? It is literally everywhere.







    Even the Biden's mouthpieces are condemning Israel's attacks on supposed safe areas, and the UN facility in Khan Younis. Humanitarian workers getting bombed, civilians getting bombed, graveyards being destroyed, homes being systematically destroyed, protestors being detained... there is so much available. I just grabbed a few to get you started. If you are unaware of everything that is happening, I suggest you educate yourself before looking like a total jackass.
    I hope you do not just plug your ears with your fingers and scream "this is all fake news". But you probably will.
     
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    The nation of Israel was create legally by the United Nations in 1947. Cowardly Hamas who members hide behind children attacked civilian neighborhoods in Israel in 2007. Hamas has been targeting Israeli civilians ever since. Finally after the again cowardly surprise attack on Israeli civilians on October 7 Israel has realized that the only solution to this violence perpetrated by Hamas against both Israeli and Gasan civilians is to completely eradicate Hamas from Gaza and make sure that Hamas never returns.
     
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    Did you even listen or watch your so-called evidence? For example the guy in the wheel chair had a bomb which went off. As well providing one off "examples" and attempting to use those to claim proof of a general statement is a logical fallacy. All of you so called "evidence" has been discussed and discounted in this thread.
     
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    Hamas revised its Charter to state its fight is not with the Jews because of their religion (ethnicity?) but with their racist Zionist project. Elite Jews like David Ben Gurion has been publicly stating their colonial intentions for years (but usually not in English)

    https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialist-viewpoint-us/sept_03/sept_03_18.html

    "'Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves ... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.'—David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech."
     
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    Exactly as I suspected. You are a true believer. Well, enjoy your genocide/ ethnic cleansing I guess. Looks like there will be plenty, followed by a fresh generation of radicalized youth.
     
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    I believe in the truth and the lessons of history.
     
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    There will always be a fresh generation of radicalized youth regardless of what Israel does.
     
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    Russia is certainly #1 at the moment but no one should expect objective truth from nations at war.

    Humans lie like fine Safavid rugs, and the humans that administer nations are the finest. ;-)

    “Pulled from the latest headlines: “Mayor Caught in a Lie!” “Did Wall Street Lies Create Financial Downfall?” “Web of Lies Led to Murder of Husband!” “‘I Lied My Way to the Top’ Fake Harvard Grad Confesses!” Studies reveal that each and every one of us lies every few minutes, that lying has reached epidemic proportions threatening the very foundations of society, corroding our civil discourse, warping our politics.

    Is lying more prevalent now than in the past, more insidious? There are more people in the world than ever before, so odds are good more lies are told than ever before. Television and the internet make it easier than ever to broadcast what we say to untold millions, billions, and given that so much of what we say is false and deceptive, no doubt whatever lies we tell fall on unprecedented numbers of innocent ears. Perhaps things are worse than ever before, that lies will be the end of us.”
    IRISH TIMES, The true history of lying, Is lying always a sin or is mendacity not just permissible but the very substance of social cohesion? The author of A History of Lying from the Garden of Eden to the Enlightenment traces its crooked path down the ages, Dallas G Denery II, Wed Jan 28 2015.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/the-true-history-of-lying-1.2081531
     
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    Not at all true. The existence of Hamas and Palestinian radicalization is a direct reflection of Israeli policies towards the Palestinians over many decades.
     
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    Hamas didn't revise anything. Look at the actions actions of Hamas.

    That was said in 1938 when Jews who could were fleeing Germany and Italy controlled by Hitler and Mussolini respectively and buying land in the British Mandate on which to settle. The nation of Israel would not exist until the United Nations partition plan of 1947. Ben-Gurion was born in Poland and immigrated to the Palestine region of the Ottoman Empire in 1906. He became the preeminent leader of the Jewish community in British-ruled Mandatory Palestine from 1935 until the establishment of the State of Israel in 1947. He was the first Prime Minister of Israel.

    Here is the full quote, why did you leave some of it out without using quotation marks to show that the different statements with text in between? That is unethical.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion#:~:text=In our political,among the Arabs.
     
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    The racist state of Israel was born in terror, and now it's dying the same way.
    Good riddance.

    https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/a...rrorism-that-led-to-israels-creation-15767166

    "But, in the 1940s, long before Palestinian resistance groups like Hamas picked up arms against the Israeli occupation, a plethora of Jewish militias were bombing and shooting dead British officials and Palestinian Arabs.

    "The Jewish groups including Haganah to Irgun, and the Stern Gang (Lehi) actively used terrorism against the British mandate over Palestine and to create fear among the Arab citizens."
     
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    Hamas arose out of the Muslim Brotherhood and has always been dedicated to killing Jews and destroying Israel. They and Hezbollah are funded by Iran who also shares the goal of killing Jews and destroying Israel.
     

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