Biden offers fresh assurances he would shut down border ‘right now’ if Congress sends him a deal

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  1. PPark66

    PPark66 Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense. The oath is to ensure our laws are faithfully executed. Raising the bar in this circumstance would be reversing Trump E.O.’s (done) and seeking the authority to take action from Congress(pending).

    Utilizing not funding our allies in a period of crisis (Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan) has fostered an immigration deal on Republican terms. Terms they’ve sought for decades. Cold as hell negotiating but effective in this environment. Seize the day, take the deal, and celebrate would be the rational response from the Party.

    Unfortunately we’re not dealing with rational actors.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I didn't say he shut it down... I said he probably WANTED it shut down.... or more likely was TOLD he wanted it shut down, because he has no real policy thoughts.....
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Clearly, you are wrong but please, go on and explain how that makes your case.
     
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    Is it any less of a promise than “I am going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it?

    The package the bipartisan Senate Committee has arrived at is the first substantial attempt to do address immigration in the last fifty years, while at the same time aiding allies, the GOP is playing politics with it
     
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    Damn right. This war has proven one thing above all else, that being the gullibility of the average American.. They cowered for almost a century from fear mongering politicians that peddled the Russian scare tactics :) Gotta laugh, the smart Americans were the ones selling the true believers BOMB Shelters back in the 50-60s.. And here we are a century later, and they still cower with the realty front and center that Russia is a nothing more than a paper tiger..

    Americans love them a boogie man and the feeling of a daddy (Government) that they believe is their protector.. Who knew beating the Russia bear was as easy as hiring a corrupt country of 38 million to beat them up :)
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    What exactly did he do on day one. Do you even know? I do. I can tell you he got rid of a bad policy and it was one of the reasons I voted for him.
    Second, he's not trying to extort anything from Republicans. He wants something and they want something....that's politics.
     
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    Not my claim, I barrowed it from one of the L people.. Makes sense though, if the below can be applied to Ukraine then it surely can be applied to the Southern border crisis :)

    Biden could by example use the same clause to flood the border with hired thugs to ward off the invasion :)
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read this post courtesy of @Condor060 and you'll know exactly what Biden did on day one.

    BORDER SHOWDOWN: Republican Governors Across U.S. Stand with Texas Against Feds
     
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    Spot on post that follows the law and the democratic (small d) process but now apparently MAGA prefers unitary power in the hands of one man over a bipartisan congressional legal proposal.
     
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    Last fifty years :roll: Try HUNDRED years! While my great grands were sitting on Ellis Island awaiting quarantine clearance, Mexicans were waltzing across the border unfettered..
     
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    WRONG.. Since when has anything in Washington been passed with out some sort of trade off.. Perfect example of Americans really out of touch with U.S. politics 101..

    Amazing lack of reality!
     
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    For a second I had hope that Congress and the President had re-learned the art of negotiation and compromise ... then fat ass lard head Trump puts
    his fat fingers into the pie and we're right back into the land of stupid.
     
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    Nonsense.. The word apparently gave it away :)

     
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    Well, there was that Obamacare thing where one side huddled up in a locked room and decided it was in the best interests of hundreds of millions of people to buy a product they either didn't want or need with the promise it would make that product cheaper and better only to find out that was a lie.
     
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    Compromise on what? Why can't Biden accept a stand alone deal? You're literally asking us to compromise on something that impacts our national security and personal safety.
     
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    Or you simply can't handle the truth in my post and would prefer to deflect away from it? :)
    Unitary power vs congressional power, what would MAGA choose and when?
     
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    It's like anything longer than a month back is forever forgotten or reinterpreted in to some bizarre alter memory ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    LMAO, you either from your descriptives :)
     
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    What you're saying is you're just making it up with nothing to back it up.
    Do better.
     
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    Really bad strawman flamebait doesn't counter that MAGA are now asking for unitary power over Congressional power.
     
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    Hey it's one of your Ls, so I'll not argue that point LOLOL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Wait.....that's what I said!!!
     
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    Like I say, your words, not mine :) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Yet you thought it was relevant. WTF.
     
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    Yeah, my words are solidly mired in reality and context while some folk's are all over the place on where the "governmental" power should rest! :D
    You know, nation of laws, etc..
     
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