Biden’s new border plan shows ‘I can’t do anything’ was always a lie

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    Because he was closing the border, building the wall and defending it. Biden did nothing but reverse Trump policy.

    Biden opened gates in the wall to let animals migrate. Guess what? The illegals walked right along with them.

    You can’t sell you fake news to those who follow the news from sources other than CNN, MSNBC and The New York Times.
     
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    Bribed Joe has everything he needs to shut down the border. Trying to blackmail Congress for another $100B in a Ukraine slushfund in exchange for Bribed Joe's promise to close the border, didn't work
     
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    Bribed Joe's a liar. He deliberately dismantled Trump's secured border.

    His attempt to blackmail another $100B for Ukraine, and country that has filled his Bribed Family's pockets with money, failed.

    The best way to secure the border is to simply re-elect Trump.

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    Nope, trump didn't close the border.
     
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    Because the cons are not actually interested in stopping immigration, for 2 main reasons:
    1. they want to keep the problem as an effective election argument,
    2. their businesses are keen to have cheap labor continue coming in.
     
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    He did. He used Presidential authority to enhance border security. Biden then used his authority to remove those security measures in an effort to open the border which has had the expected can current effect.

    Because the plan still allows 2 million migrants to enter the country. Cities and states are already at the breaking point. They need to severely halt the flow of migrants, not codify mass migration into law. Biden has also been ignoring immigration laws as it is, why would anyone believe he would follow new laws?
     
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  7. JohnHamilton

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    No, he didn’t, but Biden opened it wide open. “Remain in Mexico” was an effective policy.
     
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    IMO, they should be combined. Biden will have to actually stop migration over the border to get any funding from the RP House.
    Neither party will gain anything from a Russian victory over Ukraine, a Hamas victory over Israel or an invasion of Taiwan.
     
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    True, but many of the people who responded will vote for Biden. This is the great paradox. Vote for the candidate who doesn’t agree with you. We can thank the education system for this. The universities are indoctrination centers.
     
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    Yes he did. For covid.
    And got called a racist for it.
     
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    So?
     
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    Biden stop immigration? The Biden puppet handlers will never let that happen.
     
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    His approval on the border is only 26% despite the indoctrination.

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    Bribed Joe can't win without cheating, that's why they are so desperately working to rig the election.

    Paul Ryan, and probably Kevin McCarthy's GOP, would have folded and passed the Senate Immigration bill on Democrat votes.

    I'm finally seeing some evidence of a developing spine in the House.

    'The percentage of voters who said immigration was the "single most important issue" to them in November went up in six of the seven swing states polled in a new Bloomberg News/Morning Consult survey.'
    • '61% of those voters in those states say Biden is at least somewhat responsible for the wave of migration on the U.S.-Mexico border.'
    • 'Voters in those states say they trust Trump over Biden on immigration 52% to 30%. The 22 percentage point margin is up five points since the last poll in December.'
    • 'Asked how they would vote if the election were held today in a one-one-one matchup, Biden trails Trump by an average of 48%-42% across the seven states, which resembles other polls showing Biden lagging Trump in the key states.'
    • 'The economy remained the most important issue in every state, but 51% said they trusted Trump to manage the economy compared to 33% for Biden.'
    https://www.axios.com/2024/01/31/bloomberg-poll-biden-immigration-trump

    These are the states that will decide the election.
     
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    Cmon.
    Trump was taking care of our business and the democrats wouldn't stand for it.
    You claimed trump didn't close the border.
    He did.
    And then the democrats played the racist card rather than support anything Trump.
    But he secured the border anyway.
    In spite of opposition.
    Not one dime. Not now, not ever.
    Remember?
    So if biden is such a hot deal how come he can't secure the border?
    Same laws.
    Same budget.
     
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    No he didn't.
    Again so?
     
  16. Shutcie

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    Okey doke.
    Troll
    Fail
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, you don't believe in the truth on this matter. In this instance, at least, you believe a steaming pile of RWM cow pies.

    Unraveling Misinformation About Bipartisan Immigration Bill

    Does Not ‘Accept’ 5,000 Illegal Immigrants a Day
    Leading up to the vote, House Majority Leader Steve Scalise on social media said the bill “accepts 5,000 illegal immigrants a day.” Republican Sen. Marsha Blackburn added her voice to the opposition, posting that she would “never vote to make illegal immigration legal.”

    Those comments misrepresented the bill.

    The bill stated that temporary border emergency authority would be automatically activated by the Department of Homeland Security secretary if there is an average of 5,000 or more migrant encounters a day over seven consecutive days — or if there are 8,500 or more such encounters on any single day. In December — according to the latest data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection — there was an average of more than 8,000 encounters a day of migrants who crossed the border illegally between points of entry.
    “It’s not that the first 5,000 [migrants encountered at the border] are released, that’s ridiculous,” Lankford said
    on the Senate floor. “The first 5,000 we detain, we screen and then we deport. If we get above 5,000, we just detain and deport.”
    https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/unraveling-misinformation-about-bipartisan-immigration-bill/

    As for the OP, this is one of those very frustrating times when I wish there was no restriction for how much of an article can be pasted. Because this article goes in to granular detail showing how the over simplified pablum the thread is based on was designed for a particular kind of unsophisticated audience. Summarizing the following article by only pasting the final two paragraphs does not do it justice.

    Does Biden need a new law to ‘shut down the border’?


    The Bottom Line

    As Trump learned, to his frustration, a long-standing framework of federal statutes, regulations and court precedents governs how U.S. officials handle asylum claims. Whether Biden acted too hastily to unwind Trump’s patchwork of fixes and whether Trump’s actions were effective — or ineffective and cruel — is a matter of opinion. But the federal courts repeatedly trimmed Trump’s immigration sails by saying he was overstepping the law — which suggests a new law might be necessary.

    As Sen. James Lankford (Okla.), the chief Republican negotiator, said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday: “Even while [Trump] was president, he was specifically asking Congress to change the standard on asylum to be able to tighten up, to be able to give them additional funds for deportation. All of those things are in this bill.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/01/fact-check-biden-border-congress/
     
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    How much of the pork is earmarked for NGO to represent non citizens in Immigration court?

    And say, what about not letting non citizens into the country until they're vetted and asylum is granted?

    Why do we have to wait till we've done 5,000 a day?

    And the Ukraine payoff so ukraine can pay off "the big guy" should be held back until the border is again secure.

    You know. The way it was before biden.
     
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    It may indeed be politically impossible for him to negotiate such a compromise. Alas.
     
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    What compromise? The people who control Biden are from the Bernie Sanders - Elizabeth Warren - Squad wing of the Democrat Party. They don't no compromise; they only win or lose.

    Look at how angry the radicals are about the Biden administration approach to Israel. They are pushing him to support Hamas by calling for a cease fire.
     
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    Yeah, it's funny as hell when Biden says he would "shut down" the border when he never has. Now he's admitting he can do it without Congress. But, I doubt he will. He's been either all talk and no action or has been just a plain liar.
     
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    Well, all credit due, even his brain washed electorate is beginning to wise up ;)
     
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    Biden is the POTUS. He may have to defy powerful elements in his own party to do his job -- he is being tested right now.
    IMO, it is a mistake for Democrats and Republicans to underestimate JRB's survival instincts.
     
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    Have you bothered to watch him on TV lately? The man can barely formulate a complete sentence.

    I am of the age when I saw Jack Kennedy handle press conferences like a pro and sometimes like a stand up comedian. Biden can’t handle press conferences. All he does is give mono syllabic responses over the helicopter noise to shouted questions from reporters. The Democrats will not run Biden. The only question is, when will they yank him?
     
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    Remember when everyone assumed the young alert Cong. Paul Ryan would knock JRB out in the VP debate?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-biden-takes-debate-over-ryan-uncommitted-voters-say/

    Biden has always been very speech challenged.

    TIME MAGAZINE, Top 10 Joe Biden Gaffes
    https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1895156,00.html

    IMO, Biden can still do the job if they let him, and he is by far the strongest DP candidate.
     
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