If Trump wins. Do you support him using his power to take revenge on his opponents?

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If Trump wins. Do you support him using his political power to take revenge on his opponents?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama had a very bad economy and Trump hit China with some high tariffs when they wouldn't negotiate a better treaty to make trade fairer. China got mad and threatened to hold back ingrediencies used by our drug makers, to make life saving drugs for millions of Americans. Trump said no nation should be held hostage by another nation for ingrediencies that saves lives. so he did this.

    In a deal aimed at reducing U.S. reliance on China, the federal government announced Tuesday that it plans to give Eastman Kodak a $765 million loan to start producing the chemical ingredients needed to make pharmaceuticals.

    The company plans to establish a new division, Kodak Pharmaceuticals, that will focus on the building blocks used to produce generic drugs, according to a joint statement from Kodak and the lending agency, the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation, or DFC.
    The planned investment, reported earlier by the Wall Street Journal, will create about 350 jobs at Kodak’s home base in Rochester, N.Y., and in St. Paul, Minn., the company said.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/28/kodak-produce-pharmaceutical-ingredients/
    Trump administration buys up nearly all the world's supply of ...
    www.nationofchange.org/2020/07/01/trump...
    Jul 01, 2020 · Become a powerful force for change. The U.S. has bought up almost all of the world’s supply of remdesivir, one of only two drugs shown to work against the new coronavirus. The move is in keeping with the Trump administration ‘s “America first” buzzword towards the global pandemic and raises concerns about what the administration will do if and when a vaccine is developed.

    Kodack is making some of those ingrediencies now and did during the virus. One of the many great things he did that you never heard on CNN or MSNBC He never got credit from them.
     
  2. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's not perfect but it's the opposite of Russia. Because here, even if you commit a crime, it needs to be proven to do jail time. In Russia you don't need to have committed a crime to be convicted... and MURDERED in prison, if you're the opposition leader. This is the system that Trump admires and dreams about implementing in our country.
     
  3. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I trust ANY republican president to undo Biden's crappy policies, most of which were things that were working fine that HE undid regarding Trump's policies. Do I trust him? I do trust him for 4 years (which is all he can do). I'd rather someone else, but damn, people love trump! and the left totally shut out any chances RFK had (lots of people on the right like him)
    It looks like all of the LAWFARE gave trump polling numbers he doesn't not IMO deserve.
    Who's fault is that? THE LEFT!
     
  4. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    No the law. Trump is being prosecuted because he fell afoul of the law. Basically, anybody who makes it to president is a prominent target for any possible violation of the law. The right has tried many times against Clintons, Obama, and Biden, mostly without success. So the main difference for Trump is he went over the line on the law and it can be proven in court.
     
  5. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey man, whatever fantasy version of the FACTS you chose to stick to is your business. If you want to pretend this is normal judicial activity, go for it, and also dont' forget, there are 72 genders and all whites have privilege!
     
  6. FreshAir

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    just like Biden undid Trump's crappy EO's, the right will do the same, that is the nature of EO's
     
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  7. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and its a crappy system IMO and it seems to be based more on SPITE than helping Americans.
    Why don't they keep what's working, scrap what isn't, and come up with new ones to help? Biden's whole agenda has been Anti-trump, not pro-American. Never have i seen a president so obsessed with their predecessor
     
  8. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Gender is culturally derived, and privilege is multifactorial. Having white skin is a privilege, but other factors can outweigh this in an individual - such as being fat, trans and poor.

    Fortunately, courts deal in facts, unlike the right wing echo chamber.
     
  9. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was talking about reaping what you sow. I was talking about Trump using the same tactics against his rivals, as his rivals have used against him... within the bounds of the law, and as long as that doesn't become a distraction from his duties as President.
     
  10. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How is it a privilege? sunburn? No getting jobs through AA? Haven't to actually be QUALIFIED to get hired? I'd love to see you make a thread about this FAKE privilege you speak of. Gender is "culturally derived"? that's funny. good stuff. Please make a thread about it
     
  11. Eddie Haskell Jr

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    I'm staying completely on topic. Stop deflecting. As I pointed out, you can drive drunk and not injure anybody. Does that mean the driver shouldn't be charged?
     
  12. LiveUninhibited

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    The main reason is we are still a white majority country, and both numbers and wealth are concentrated in this majority. I'm sure you know that "it's who you know" as much as qualifications is important in getting jobs. Well, people hire people who are like them, who they like (for the same reason) or those in their social circles. Of course being white is an advantage. You complain about attempts to offset it, but these attempts do not fully offset it.

    Being white may not be a privilege somewhere like, say, Japan or China.

    Yes, gender is culturally derived. It is not the same as biological sex. That's the medical consensus. As usual, the right is against science in waging cultural wars.
     
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    Ignoring the fact that Trump actually said that destroys the entire credibility of your ability to accept truth and fact.

    Face it. Trump supporters will defend criminals as long as they share the same ideology and he knows it. Someday his conditioned supporters may realize it too.
     
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    Read what you write. You didn't say "Trump said." You said "Trump could." Not much point in interfacing with you. Best of luck.
     
  15. fmw

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    Opinion. The judicial system is left leaning. No surprise that they protected Clinton and protect Biden.
     
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    Semantics. I said over and over that Trump 'said' he 'could' shoot someone and not lose a single supporter. Doesn't change the facts at all. Stop defending criminals.
     
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    Stop spewing nonsense. Goodbye.
     
  18. Pro_Line_FL

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    The history will remember his 2nd term as the "Revenge Tour".
     
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    Trump’s second term will be the “ saving of democracy”
     
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    I would analogize my position to how I would react to a father whose child was molested.

    I would not support him going full-on vigilante and killing the perpetrator, but if during the trial he punched him in the nose for smirking, I would look the other way and not give it a moment's thought. I might even take pleasure in him doing so. Such an action is wholly understandable, and you can easily rationalize that he had it coming.
     
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    Moron Trump lawyers didn't request a jury trail in a timely manner. Moron Trump hires moron lawyers and has to pay for his own stupidity.
    Mar a Lago was valued under $25 million because Trump petitioned Palm Beach Co. to make it a heritage site so that
    he could pay millions less in taxes. It's not a home, it's a club house - thus not worth the higher values of a single home.
    Trump WANTED it that way so he could weasel out of taxes - so the dick head gets bit in the ass by karma one more time.

    Is what it is.
     
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    but the judge lied and you are deflecting from the truth.. James DID REQUEST no jury and then the judge lied and said Trump had no right to a jury trial...

    It would not matter if Trump's team asked for a jury, Engoron already rules he had no right to a jury..

    I find when a judge lies in court documents.... he should be held accountable for those lies

    https://pl.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/decisions/trump-decision.pdf

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    When Letitia James literally did ask for no jury in her court filing


    https://s3.documentcloud.org/docume...torney-general-trump-trial-no-jury-notice.pdf

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    It's not the Judge's or DA's job to request a jury - that request has to come from Trump's lawyers. They screwed up. Karma bites
    Trump in the ass. All his life he's relied on the Courts to bail him out of financial troubles by using them to declare bankruptcy. He has
    screwed over dozens of sub-contractors and thousands of laborers ... Trump has built a huge karma debt. He brought this on himself.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Try reading before you post again..... the judge already made the ruling BEFORE THE TRIAL that Trump had no right to a jury... Trump could have demanded a jury all day long, but this judge had already denied it denying Trump due process.

    https://pl.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/decisions/trump-decision.pdf

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  25. Daniel Light

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    Bull Crap. Trump's lawyers had months PRIOR to the judges ruling to request a jury trail. They failed to file the paperwork. Rookie mistake.
    And Karma.
     
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