Avdiivka, Longtime Stronghold for Ukraine, Falls to Russians

Moving nukes to an opponents border is "provocation"??

Besides the Kremlin’s a$$ is on fire over that....what will they do.....not much or phuck all, considering they're neck deep in $hit in Ukraine.

 

At the least the co-sponsor of the bill because he was the co-sponsor. Beyond that? Surprise surprise I can't read minds. Which is the point. Trump spoke out against the bill the day it was released and after that? We never got to hear where individual Senators might have thought about it otherwise. And that's the point. If Trump had delayed saying 'no' just for even a couple of days we would've known for certain how the vote could have gone because of public comments made by individual Senators once they'd seem seen the final version of the bill. And no, I don't expect it would have had majority support amongst Republican's. I do know it would only have required what? say two, perhaps three votes at most to get it over the line though. Two or three out of forty nine including it's sponsor. Those were excellent odds.

 

It doesn't get much more provocative than launching a full scale military invasion of a neighboring country in a bid to capture and take it over in its entirety. Why should we worry about what they hypocritically choose to call a provocation at this point?

 

Post 282. 'In this case the Democrats needed a couple of Republican votes to get the Border/Ukraine bill across the line.'

Post 297 'They only needed single digit support to get it over the line'

And of course Post 304 (In more detail) 'I never claimed 'Republican's (as in all Republicans) supported the bill. I never even claimed a majority of Republicans in the Senate supported the Bill. Hell, I never even claimed a significant minority of them did. What I actually said was that there was a high probability that a small number of Republican Senators (primarily from that section of the party interested in stronger border measures and in supporting Ukraine would have voted for it. In other words just a handful of votes, enough to get the bill over the line.'

Now you were posting about me 'walking back my comments?

 

Imperialist claims?????

Catherine the Great founded Odesa! As well as Mariupol and others. I'm sure you're aware the nazis took down the statue of the founders in Odesa (Catherine and others)? You can try to erase history D but you can't. Just because you support the people that burned 54 ethnic Russians alive in Odesa and you cheered when they removed the statue of Catherine and the other RUSSIAN founders of Odesa....that don't make it UN-Russian.

Torn down by nazis:



seems the ukie nazis picked up this habit from the lefties in the US.

 

Back to Avdiivka, this American veteran is fighting on behalf of the Donbass.....in Avdiivka...against the nazis. Even hung a US flag up in Avdiivka.....

https://rumble.com/v4fgrk6-an-american-fighting-for-donbass-on-the-side-of-russia-in-avdeevka..html

 

New York was founded as New Amsterdam by the Dutch West India Company. It doesn't give the Netherlands a right to come and take it today, Bill, no matter how many "Nazis" might be found there.

 

Did New Amsterdam exist for 1,000 years before New York declared independence in 1991? Most of the major cities in Russia are older than the United States. A lot of them are are over 700 years older than the US.

"the ukraine's" 'democracy' only lasted 23 years. 900 years -vs- 23 years.

Don't you worry D, they'll leave Lvov and the areas of Galicia alone. The nazi's homeland.

 

"Rumble".....saaaweeet.

More disinformation....any more?

 

Most RuZZian cities are 700 years older than US....and still no toilets, USA is THEE Superpower, and RuZzzfascista will collapse.....again....

 

The entire premise of your argument is that you could, in fact, read minds or...already had some sort of commitment from these senators since you claimed that they changed their minds after Trump opened his mouth. So now that you concede we are in "We never got to hear where individual Senators might have thought about it" territory; just stop it.

This is the path where talking points leads you. "Trump kills the immigration bill" was just too good a line to check, so you didn't until you were actually asked about it. Now you could learn an important lesson or two about your media sources and their credibility, but I'm sure you will simply conclude that reality is wrong.

Now that we've gone down this ridiculous detour for several days can we please get back to the topic, which is Ukraine's defeat at Avdiivka?

 

And Kyiv is far older than Moscow. It changes nothing. "Russia" as you imagine it (it's actually the Russian Federation now) has no claim over Ukraine. You are openly parroting imperialist claims on their part while taking offense at having this pointed out. Nazi Germany likewise made such imperialist claims and tried to conquer neighboring lands based on the same kinds of lies that Putin's regime is using now.

 

More "active defense" from Russia.

russia has occupied the town of Lastochkino, located in the Eastern region. russian troops are trying to advance to Severne and Orlivka. This is reported by DeepState, according to UNN.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/unn.ua...ze-the-town-of-lastochkino-in-eastern-ukraine

 

That's very good to see.

 

RuZZfascista is looking silly with their "memes" on message boards.....now claiming that recent A50 never was shot down and suffered minor damages.

Not only is their Navy getting schwacked by "No Navy".....their Air Force is getting decimated by "no air force".....

 

Neither you nor the mainstream media have reputations for telling the truth. Likely you still believe Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman. Pure propaganda, all of the time.

 

That's even better than "We shot it down ourselves! Curse those hohol missiles!"

 

Right...right...and you're reputation is....what?

LOL....I didn't vote for Bill Clinton...although I met him briefly at a state fair event in Arkansas once in the late 80s.






Well you should know a thing or two about propaganda.....that's all you post.

 

Mainstream media has an impeccable reputation, actually. It's the Russian bots and their sophist puppets who claim otherwise.

 

In your strange world, the bubble you live in, yes.

 

We don't live in "bubbles" ...unlike RuZzian sheeple who are clueless to the real world.

 

Comedy Gold!

 

Now fellas, you know the Russians loaded a laptop full of hunter's emails, drug use and porn and flew it to Delaware, walked it into a computer shop and left it. Because 50 CIA/FBI and various other alphabet people said so, as did the MSM.
Just like those WMD's in Iraq. They were just misplaced. They'll turn up

 

I see. So even though Trump stated he was responsible you know better. As for reading minds? Your the one who requested a level of evidence that could only be achieved by mind reading since the bill was withdrawn before anyone in the Republican side of the Senate expressed their voting intentions. I on the other hand simply pointed to a couple of names and to the fact the Dems only needed a couple of names to get the bill passed. Why did you do that BTW? Do tell. Lastly, no acknowledgement I see even after I identified specific posts whihc proved I wasn't 'changing my story' Again why is that?

As for Adviika? Who cares. Its one loss for Ukraine. Russia's had a string of far worse military losses to it's credit and no sane person is claiming any of them were knockout blows. Same thing for Ukraine this is just one hard fought setback with only minor gains made by Russia. Ukraine on the other hand as been holding off a military power three times their own size for two years now and manged to gain ground in the process. This fight still has a long way to go.

 

I've already more than made my point about the immigration bill. If your premise required mindreading, as it did, and you can't reproduce said mindscans, than you are only voicing an unsubstantiated, fact free opinion.

As for Adviika, I noted something in my last post to you, "Now you could learn an important lesson or two about your media sources and their credibility, but I'm sure you will simply conclude that reality is wrong."

Given your view of the war, I guess you've concluded that reality is wrong.