Why do so many Americans seem to hate Netanyahu?

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have not stated "Genocide" in Gaza .. but your rejection is a joke as you don't know what genocide is .. nor does your claim that if genocide was going on Israel could have wiped Gaza off the map in a day make any sense at all. So what if they could have as we know they can nuke Gaza if they desire .. as this has absolutely no bearing on whether or not a Genocide is being conducted .. ands you who is then cheapening real acts of Genocide .. as you have been desperately doing with war crimes - crimes against humanity by bringing up Genocide.

    What part of .. Collective punishment is a War Crime .. are you having trouble understanding in desperate attempt at cheapening the extermination of 10,000 real children .. and the 10,000 more children that lived but were wounded .. having to endure amputation without anisthetic because of Israeli Crimes against humanity .. not allowing medicine .. food .. water .. the unsanitary conditions a form of biological war-far .. and much much more.

    As Ireland say "The Hague too good for Bibi" .. Genocide Joe should go with him ... but then sent back to USA for where they can execute folks cause unfortunately they don't do that no more at the Hague. Bibi's crimes are Nuremberg worthy .. you can use that term instead of Genocide to get rid of the symantic fallacy.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They why do you blame the 10,000 children exterminated for the actions of the IDF ? makes no sense.
     
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    actually your claims prove this is true about your knowledge
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    What beef?
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A child is anyone under the age of 19. A great many of the "children" are Hamas recruits. Hamas is responsible for all the deaths in the Gaza Strip.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is under 19 the Gaza Health dept's definition of Child ? .. humorous in any case your suggestion that a majority of the dead children were Hamas .. just pure made up nonsense on steroids .. :) as is the claim that the rebellious Jews were responsible for all the killing done by the brown shirts in the Warsaw Ghetto.

    OK friend -- right o then -- carry on :)
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not claim knowledge of Genocide .. and have not claimed Genocide in Gaza .. once again in some kind of deflection tactic you have confused me with someone else. You are the one claiming knowledge of Genocide .. but have yet to show any evidence of this claim.

    You. Collective punishment is a War Crime ..and how it was you who was cheapening of the extermination of 10,000 real children .. and the 10,000 more children that lived but were wounded .. having to endure amputation without anisthetic because of Israeli Crimes against humanity .. not allowing medicine .. food .. water .. the unsanitary conditions a form of biological war-far ...

    Now instead of rambling on about Genocide -- Please address the crimes of Israel under discussion .. and the complicity of Genocide Joe in this horrific atrocity .. will be a black mark on the USA .. not good for our reputation .. not that there is much there to be salvaged but ...
     
  9. Dayton3

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    If Israel had an "extermination program" there wouldn't be a Palestinian left alive
     
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    Yup. If Israel were focused on genocide they are very poor at it. The IDF is the most moral military organization engaged in a shooting war in global history.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Don't make that claim to SF.
     
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    I am open in my disagreements with Netanyahu and support for the Kadima and Labour parties of Israel and Benny Gantz not Netanyahu.

    That said whether I or any American likes or dislikes Netanyahu means sweet phack all. During war, a war cabinet not Netanyahu implements the operational decisions on the ground and that ultimately believe it or not does not come from above but the ground officers given parameters or ranges of what they can do but no one exact order. The nature of the conflict does not allow fixed orders precisely because the IDF allows itself at any time to flex and change its movement depending on the proximity of civilians and Hamas who are both fluid and never in one place.

    Netanyahu is a mouthpiece during war nothing else. The war council or committee is dynamic and fluid. It serves as a sounding board for debate of possible options and trying to rule out ones everyone disagrees on. Netanyahu is not sitting anywhere making unilateral commands. That is part if the moronic, simplistic, black and white idiocy we see of arm chair geniuses brought up on their cell phones reading headlines of claims they preconceive as correct.

    Most people who "hate" Netanyahu are trying to be trendy. Do they hate Hamas? Lol they haven't a clue who runs Hamas. They haven't a clue who runs the IDF or how its operational command in fact works.

    They have no clue how many IDF soldiers are dying as we speak to protect Gaza civilians or how the IDF calls for ceasefires everyday and exposes itself to Hamas death to get food to Gaza civilians and stop Hamas from stealing this food.

    Most people who hate Netanyahu buy into a script fed them by Hamas. They act as if the IDF are cold blooded murderers who Netanyahu orders to kill Palestinians for no reason.

    Netanyahu has many issues for me but they are not the reason Gaza civilians die nor is he the reason Hamas exists and is killing off all its citizens so that it can exploit their death and not take responsibility for it morally because they know the same people who hate death do not talk about what Hamas did to Israelis, does to its citizens and does to its hostages. In their world its very simple, let's blame Netanyahu and ignore the complex nuances and layers of this conflict. Everything can be reduced to a moronic 5 second sound bite.

    Welcome to the world of brain deads on cell phones.

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    good joke.
     
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    It's an accurate fact based statement supported by the information posted in this and other threads. Of course facts don't matter with regard to faith based narratives.
     
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    My goodness what ridiculously false nonsense and non sequitur fallacy. Surly you don't actually believe such a premise as being a History teacher you would know that the Nazi extermination program left Many Jews Alive .. and that Rotten Ronnie's extermination program in East Timor left many Timorese alive.

    Surprised anyone could be fooled with such silliness
    now that is even more ridiculously false ! How many children are dead in Ukraine so far ? .. 1500 dead or injured. That's right mate .. the IDF over an order of magnitude less moral than Russia ..
     
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    What facts .. your claim is completely unsupported made up nonsense rather than based on information of any kind. Show us this information that supports your claim .. even though it has already been refuted..
     
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    What is the age definition of a child? Is the Ukraine army using children as human shields?
     
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    The facts I have been posting for the last several weeks.
     
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    Why are you asking me what the age definition of child is .. you are the one claiming under 19 is a child.. and using your definition "The IDF is the most moral military organization engaged in a shooting war in global history" is demonstrably false.
    Hamas is not using Children as human shields to any great extent .. another desperate cry of nonsense. over 10,000 dead which equates to roughly 30,000 child casualties .. in only 6 months. = 5,000 per month.

    Russia 1500 child casualties in 24 months = 63 per month. your claim that the IDF is more moral is complete false nonsense... dropping bombs on civilians indiscriminately the cause.

    but forgetting the recent war in Gaza .. Israel has been called out for its amoral and illegal war crimes hundreds of times over this 70 years of Ethnic Cleansing and Crimes against humanity. ... the indiscriminate killing of civilians got so bad that even Israeli Pilots refused to fly.

    Israeli pilots refuse to fly assassination missions
    Israeli pilots refuse to fly assassination missions | Palestinian territories | The Guardian

    Who was more amoral would be a better question .. you have not even provided evidence of that .. never mind showing Israel being the most moral in history .. a preposterously uninformed made up position now refuted.
     
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    UOTE="Josh77, post: 1074723894, member: 67286"]good joke.[/QUOTE]


    How is what he posted a "joke""
     
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    Your "source" is a notable left wing rag The Guardian?
     
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    Al the evidence you need to make a rational decision is upthread.
     
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    The most rational and honest post I have read on the matter :applause::applause:
     
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    doh!
    Focus on the message not the messenger. I.e the Israel pilots who are refusing to continue assassination missions in Gaza.
     

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