Attempted Suicide Rates More Than Double After Gender-Reassignment Surgery: Study

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  1. MuchAdo

    MuchAdo Well-Known Member

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    Why would they kill themselves because they believe everybody else is narrow minded and love themselves for being bigoted haters? I vote your comment as one of the most unthinking ridiculous comparisons every made on this website.
     
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    This makes zero sense.

    Are you saying transgender people are more prone to suicidal tendancies?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Transgenders are "persecuted"?

    When did this start?
     
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  4. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If you had read the previous post, you'd understand a bit more. Care to try again? For the first time? You are literally asking about the **** I already answered.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    See most of human history.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I am not interested in your "haters and bigots." I respect American medical expertise. Knowledge and understanding are good.

    Gender dysphoria is defined as a “conflict between a person’s physical or assigned gender and the gender with which he/she/they identify”. Every major medical association in the United States recognizes the medical necessity of transition-related care for improving the physical and mental health of transgender people.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Amen. And not everyone who is transgender has this clinical dysphoria anyway. As for the appropriate care, it's almost like the patients and their caregivers know something about this. Shocking!
     
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    Authoritarian ideologues can be fanatical about forcing their dogma upon everyone. Their relentless attack upon reproductive freedom is one glaring example.
     
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    It has festered for a long time.
    American Psychological Association: Answers to your questions about transgender people

    After an extensive study of gender incongruence in Sweden, the eligibility for pediatric gender transition with puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones was sharply curtailed. Only a minority of gender dysphoric youth—those with the “classic” childhood onset of cross-sex identification and distress, which persist and cause clear suffering in adolescence—are now considered as potentially eligible for hormonal interventions.

    I respect this cautious approach.
     
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  10. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are times when American medical expertise must be questioned. Did you live through the china virus fiasco?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    What are your medical credentials?

    Swedish medicine, in concert with that of all advanced nations, recognizes gender dysphoria.

    Do you?
     
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    Depression in this case is a product of the confusion inherent in gender dysphoria.
     
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    Dude everyone recognises that gender dysphoria exist, the question is how best to deal with it. It seems that surgery doesn't work well in a hell of a lot of cases
     
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    Your claim in this case is a product of expressing your personal feelings without actually being able to discuss evidence.
     
  15. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I might not be a doctor but I can tell a dead body when I see one. With the high suicide rate, gender dysphoria is a disease of the mind, not the body. Also, we, and that includes you, already know that batting from the other side of the plate is trendy, promoted and profitable.
     
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    Does depression cause it or is depression a product of it that would seem to be your only two choices and frankly the former would be contraindicated.
     
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    Or depression is a product of the way people treat them for it. A very likely alternative, backed by research, that you haven't considered.
     
  18. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If someone is willing to pay, someone is willing to do it.

    Texas gender clinic performs experimental surgeries like 'Barbie-dolling,' nullification, giving patients both male and female genitals

    A gender clinic in Texas has come under scrutiny for performing hundreds of unconventional and experimental genital surgeries.

    According to the Daily Mail, the Crane Center for Transgender Surgery, located in Austin, offers a range of surgeries catering to individuals who identify as transgender or non-binary. The clinic, nicknamed “Frankenstein’s Lab,” offers procedures that include the creation of both a penis and vagina in patients as well as the complete removal of sex organs, something critics are referring to as “barbie-dolling.”

    Dr. Curtis Crane, who heads the clinic, touts himself as one of the few practitioners skilled in both plastic surgery and urology, specializing in transgender surgery and reconstructive urology.

    “I can't think of a time that a patient has come up with a surgical request that I haven't been able to fulfill,” Crane said in a Facebook Live video in 2020.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/texas...giving-patients-both-male-and-female-genitals
     
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    There's a slim possibility that this is a real story. Though it seems no one here in Austin has heard of it. Even in the pro-trans community.
     
  20. MuchAdo

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    Trust pilot = 93% give it a rating of 1 out of 5

    https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.dailymail.co.uk

    Example:
    Garbage post from a garbage source.
     
  21. Steve N

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    Here is the website for the dick removal surgeons and this Crane guy is on it. If the story is fake, then perhaps you should notify the clinic and tell them they have a very profitable lawsuit.

    The funny part is how you’re calling this a garbage post, yet once you realize it’s true you’ll be in full support of this garbage and call anyone who isn’t a racist.


    https://cranects.com/
     
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    If you like to imagine that medical expertise favors treatment modalities that increase the likelihood of suicide, and that denying medical care is preferable, your personal opinion is taken for what it's worth.

    I have faith in medical science, predicated upon empirical data, overcoming ideological dogma.

     
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    Surgery is not the "go to" medical option in most cases.

    It is only undertaken with the approval of the patient after extensive alternative treatment proves ineffective.

    Medical specialists do have a far better understanding of the condition than do ideologues.
     
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    Men are just better at suicide.

    More women than men ATTEMPT suicide, but men are more successful at carrying through.
     
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    Acknowledging that they have a mental illness is not hateful.
     
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