What is the primary reason you support Trump?

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    That’s good. We can stop debating the issues. You vote for Biden and make your life worse unless you have a cushy government job or work for a renewable energy company. Or you can avoid the neo Marxist movement for at least a couple years.
     
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    @robini123 If you care about world peace and the avoidance of useless wars, as I do, Trump is the better choice.
     
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    I suppose you could say that - but it doesn't answer my question. What about the profits seen by the corps? There is plenty of information about it online - are you not interested in becoming informed?
     
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    ‘If you get your “news” from Fox or the collection of no nothings that rant on right wing social media, you almost certainly haven’t.

    Jan 6th was not some ‘nebulous bullshit”

    It was an insurrection plot. Freedom was at issue that day. But Trump’s plot fell apart and freedom got to live.

    We intend to keep it that way.
     
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    First of all, Biden did not ban natural gas exports.

    Where do you people get this stuff?????

    Natural gas is cleaner than oil or coal. But is not clean.

    The logic of clinging to 19th century technologies continues to confound me.
     
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    one thing is clear, Trump wants Ukraine to get worse. He’s doing Putin’s bidding and Trump nation is right there with him.
     
  7. JohnHamilton

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    Food stores have among the lowest mark-ups in the retail industry. Some of your “cool stores” like Whole Foods and Sprouts are probably higher.

    If there is “plenty of information,” why don’t you link it?

    So if food stores are price gouging, which I doubt, what is your solution? Price control? Regulations? Nationalization? It’s all part of you playbook. I know the Biden administration is totally blameless in your world.
     
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    I call bullshit on that
     
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    why do you labor under the delusion that those of us who oppose the Talibiden only get our news from Fox, while the zombie legions supporting Braindead Biden are well informed?
     
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    Oh spare me the BS about “ Neo Marxist “, those word might sound grate at BBQ gathering with MAGA but in real world it is meaningless.

    DEMS/Liberal/Biden policy works. that’s why 72% US GDP comes from Blue district. Conservative policy doesn’t, work that is why state like Oklahoma needs federal money from liberal city like NYC to keep police department running.
     
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    claiming that liberal policies are why old money areas continue to have lots of money is really silly. the USA was founded on capitalism and that is why we are wealthy.
     
  12. JohnHamilton

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    And I guess the State of California is in such great fiscal shape because of its woke policies.
     
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    The capitalist system made The United States wealthy, not the welfare state. The welfare state is as big as it is because the capitalist economy created enough wealth to support it.
     
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    Wel, it seems like Capitalism only works in Blue congressional district with liberal/ Marxist policy. GOP should take some of the Marxist policy to deep RED state like Alabama or Oklahoma to bring jobs and opportunity and investment to improve their local economy economy.
     
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    Thread winner. parasites cannot live in a desert or on a skeleton
     
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    Still the wealthiest state in USA and it will remain wealthiest state for next 100 years.
     
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    complete nonsense. the disease of welfare socialism hasn't killed the USA yet, despite the best efforts of its disciples. we were the richest nation in the world before the federal government got into the public teat business
     
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    Welfare system is great , it works hand in hand with Capitalism in blue state. problem we have in America is that Blue state like NYC has to support poor state like Oklahoma.
     
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    I am sorry, but the economy is great in blue state. GDP keep growing in CA, NY, IL , WA .

    Capitalism working great and social programs are working great blue states.

    Rather then worrying about welfare system , Conservatives needs to ask question “ why city of NYC’s GDP keep growing and not city of Montgomery.
     
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    Call whatever you want.

    You can’t refute it.

    Trump is Putin’s bitch, and he is doing exactly what Putin wants him to do.

    And, of course, since Putin wants all US military aid to Ukraine to stop, and he wants to divide the US and NATO (as has every Russian leader since Stalin, Trump is doing everything to make that happen.

    ‘He oversaw the revolt against McCarthy in order to intimidate the GOP, and saw to the installation of a total lickspittle in the Speaker’s Chair.

    Insuring that their first priority is blocking Aid to Ukraine.

    He has enlisted right wing media to sing the Kremlin tune, accompanied by a fresh wave of Russian trolls and fake news. The same stuff that Trump nation ate up in 2016.

    And here you are, bobbing your head to Putin’s agenda!
     
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    1st
    Because it is obvious.
     
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    And so when it turns out that climate change is real... history is going to remember him as the idiot that made it worse. It's going to get more and more obvious. It really felt like something "in the future" and not affecting us until a decade or two ago. Most people are not going to say "that's unprecedented but it couldn't be because of people" forever.
     
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    That's "IF it turns out climate change is real AND significant AND actually bad". I'm confident you won't actually see any of the 3 and certainly not all 3 of them.

    If climate change were that important, progressive environmentalists would have been able to get Congress to pass legislation to deal with it instead of cheating and going through liberal Supreme Courts to get their way. In fact, if Chevron and Massachusetts do fall, y'all still have the legitimate non-cheating option open to you. All it takes is 218 votes in the House and 60 votes in the Senate.

    Care to take a stab at what the odds are they'll actually try?

    Didn't think so.

    In the meantime, the economy won't be obliterated by Biden's stupid CO2 regulations and an amazingly idiotic EV mandate killing internal combustion engines which ac tually is guaranteed at this point.
     
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    It’s hilarious you think I should lean on the expertise and integrity of congress. It’s already significant. It can get much worse. But no it won’t kill us all.
     
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    You are right about the risk of a second term, things are looking a lot
    worse now than they did even a year ago.

    The next stage of immigration I understand is to allow people inside
    the US, whether legally or not, to vouch for others outside the country
    to receive free transport in and ID papers and money.

    Similarly in the first year of the Biden Administration war starting consisted
    only of sending 300 million dollars of weapons, 300 million dollars of
    military pay and I can't remember what the 100 million dollar part was,

    But it was only after the weapons arrived at the front, in mid February
    2022 that the present stage of the war started.

    And I'm not sure he will be able to destroy the dollar in the time he has
    left but if it is known he will be the next president, then confidence in
    the dollar will decline.
     

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