A solution in search of a problem.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Apr 11, 2024.

  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I can repeat my question if you would like, or you can try actually answering it.
     
  2. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is it about my response you do not understand?
     
  3. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The part where you didn't actually address my question. Just because you can get a DL doesn't mean you can vote. Your entire argument assumes this isn't true.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA), also known as the Motor Voter Act, is a United States federal law signed into law by President Bill Clinton on May 20, 1993, that came into effect on January 1, 1995.[1] The law was enacted under the Elections Clause of the United States Constitution and advances voting rights in the United States by requiring state governments to offer simplified voter registration processes for any eligible person who applies for or renews a driver's license or applies for public assistance, and requiring the United States Postal Service to mail election materials of a state as if the state is a nonprofit.[2] The law requires states to register applicants that use a federal voter registration form, and prohibits states from removing registered voters from the voter rolls unless certain criteria are met."
    National Voter Registration Act of 1993 - Wikipedia

    I have registered to vote in numerous states and precincts and have never been asked for proof of citizenship.
     
  5. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You seem to have ignored the "eligible" part of your own quote. And what were you expecting to provide as proof of citizenship?
     
  6. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You figure it out. I am too old and tired for your nonsense.
     
  7. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I may well be older than you. But I'm sorry that the thought of actual reflection and rational discussion upsets you. Maybe one day you will be old enough to realize that, just because someone can get a DL, doesn't mean they can register to vote.
     
  8. garyd

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    They don't have to get in the rolls for example in 2020 had only people voted who were on the rolls voted at least a few million votes would have been cast.
     
  9. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I honestly can't even figure out how this is an English sentence. Can you try again?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many times do I have to tell you? I have never been required to provide proof of citizenship.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And how many times do I have to ask you: where are non-citizens allowed to actually vote in federal elections?
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think @kriman made the assertion that non-citizens are allowed to vote. His assertion is that they are not prevented from voting, which is (and should be) alarming, if true.
     
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  13. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will make it very simple for you.

    Non-citizens are not allowed to vote. That is already the law. That is not what they are trying to pass.

    They are trying to change the laws so that proof of citizenship is required in order to register to vote.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Drop the second 'voted'
     
  15. ECA

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    Could you repeat this but in English this time?
     
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    See the answer I already gave to that.
     
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    There are means to remove them. My guess is they will use Alabama as the model.
     
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    The government isn't suppose to be involved in the voting process. And recent events clearly indicate why this was the intent of the FF.
     
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    The FF didn't have to worry about 50 states plus overseas.
     
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    Its against state law in *most* states. IIUC, this will make it a federal law. And while I dont see how Fedgov can make states enforce it, I reckon Fedgov can refuse state election results if those states are allowing noncitizens to vote.
     
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    Have you ever volunteered to work the polls in the past... or even recently. I'm not being condescending. Serious question. Because if you had you would realize how egregious recent changes have been. It really has been a major shift in the process and not at all for the better. There are glaring holes in the integrity of the voting process now. And when you try to address these cavernous security issues all you get is, "well that would be illegal for someone to cast a vote like that". Well it might be illegal, but that hasn't stopped people in the past and when there is NO CHANCE it will be discovered it shouldn't come as a surprise that is what we get. Also, the recent interference by the government I find very alarming. The government essentially controls 90% or more of the process now. Formerly, their role was negligible as originally intended. I would be curious to hear others who have experience with the process give their assessment.
     
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    Indeed. That is why the title of the thread is so fitting.
     
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    No, sorry, it's already against the law in every state for non citizens to vote in any federal election, PERIOD. It's amazing people are unaware of this,that makes it ripe for Trump to pressure Johnson to prima donna virtue signal the rubes to still try to promote The Big Lie. You can easily research this with little effort including reading the OP. You know, states rights.....like the women's health care issue that now creating chaos.
     
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    The dems are. Over and over without a single example. I'd be embarassed to be so eazily manipulated.
     
  25. ECA

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    I still don’t know what the F you’re trying to say.
     

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