Why Trump should win his NY hush money trial

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That's your opinion, not a crime.

    No, you inferred it. You "drew a conclusion based on the evidence".
     
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    I’m still waiting for proof that the SDNY said “it didn’t happen”. Or that the DOJ said that. All of this waiting is making me feel sad.
     
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    Do you celebrate Trump’s dereliction of duty? You seem to.
     
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    Orange privilege must outweigh white privilege.
     
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    One step up, ;)
     
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    Calling Jack Smith and Alvin Bragg "career professionals" is like calling Michael Avenatti a trustworthy attorney. Jack Smith has a history of being overturned for unethically bending the law and Alvin Bragg is an elected putz acting on behalf of a political party leading up to an election after initially reviewing the case and coming to the same conclusion as the person before him and the DoJ to not file BS charges based on underlying conduct well past the statute of limitations.

    But as long as you get your political opponent in an orange jumpsuit we can pretend they're "career professionals" LOL. There's a word for this type of political ideology, and it's not a pleasant one. But yeah, who on Bragg's team is the "career professional" leading the prosecution on this case? A guy who left working under the Biden administration just in time to bring forward an indictment Act Vance passed on, Southern District of NY passed on, Biden's DOJ passed on, and Alvin Bragg himself initially passed on. Go figure! Just in time for the election, just the way Big Guy's worshippers love it. No reason to bring the charges seven years ago, but when you can interfere in an election.. this is the time.
     
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  8. Nwolfe35

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    You're going to have to document your claims about Jack Smith.
     
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    So because you've never personally seen the dysfunction it never existed? Pfft. I'll bet that you've never personally seen Jupiter...yet it still exists.

    And its funny how you ignore all the Dems that questioned the 2016 election results and tried to get it overturned...using the same law that Trump tried to use. Here's your 2016 candidate saying that the 2016 election was "not on the level". IE: Rigged. IE: Stolen. LINK: Hillary Clinton Maintains 2016 Election ‘Was Not On the Level’: ‘We Still Don’t Know What Really Happened’ (yahoo.com)

    Now...shoot the messenger.
     
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    No Democrats, ever, claimed that the 2016 election was rigged/stolen?...lol
     
  11. Nemesis

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    Are they as bad as Rudy, Clark, Powell, Ellis, Habba.
     
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    Boy, Hillary sure started lots of litigation and conspiracy theories about it! I think she sued at least 60 different states and others! She was kidding when she pretended to concede the election!
     
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    My thoughts is it's an NDA there is no crime. He should win the trial there should have never been a trial because there wasn't a crime.
     
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    :yawn: Deflection noted.
     
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    They found NO CAMPAIGN VIOLATIONS. Trump was not charged let alone prosecuted let alone convicted of any campaign finance violation PERIOD.

    I don't care yohr opinion I care the facts and the law. And for it to have been a campaign violation in can't be "de facto" it must be specifically and SOLELY for campaign use which of course this was not. You destroyed your own de facto argument.

    False again even if it came under NY jurisdiction, it does not, it would be a minor reporting misdemeanor but thr statute of limitations is long passed.

    And when was he convicted under this law?

    What trial? There is no federal nor even federal charges.

    We shall see.

    What possible testimony as to the reporting requirements under tax law can Daniels bring? Cohen is a proven perjurer in the matter his tedtiminy is not credible. What's he going to testify to asserted violations of FEDERAL law? This is not a federal trial or federal charges or a federal court. Picker what's he got?
     
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    Exactly. Nor any federal campign finance law, the governing law, violations.
     
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    None that I know of.
     
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    It's just like the New York fraud thing he borrowed money he paid the loan back the bank was happy Trump was happy there was no issue.

    So the question is why are there entities in making up crimes?

    Is Trump really this much of a threat to the pathetic idiot that's an office right now?
     
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    I posted that the SDNY attorney said the crime did not happen. He actually told the judge they were stopping the investigation and dropping the case. To the non-nit picker, same thing.
     
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    Source??
     
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    Trump is exonerated again? He did nothing wrong! The feds said so! Bragg is only doing what Biden and George Soros want, right guys?
     
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    Because that is what purges to to rid of political opposition. Trump is not a threat to just Biden or the DOJ or the NY AG or the NYDA but to thousands of top level Democrats and their minions.
     
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    You should call Trump’s defense attorneys immediately! I bet they never thought about that winning argument!
     
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    Here's one example. Look up the 8-0 SCOTUS decision in favor of Robert McDonnell where they eviscerated Smith for his "boundless interpretations" of the statutes and his "uncontrolled power" that "threatened our separation of powers."

    There's a reason Biden's DOJ chose Jack Smith to prosecute his election opponent. He's a corrupt partisan hack who stretches the boundaries of the law. If you read any of his filings you can see how crooked he is. The only court that hasn't signed off on his nonsense is in Florida and even in that court he is constantly being scolded for not following the rules of court. And there's a reason he used a grand jury in DC to indict a defendant on charges out of a Florida district. He's dirty and corrupt just like unanimous the SCOTUS ruling said.
     
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    @RodB what is your source for the claim that the Feds said “it didn’t happen”?
     

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