Restaurant Workers Lose Their Jobs Over Newsom’s $20 Minimum Wage

Well the ones that lost their jobs now make zero, but the ones who kept their jobs make a little more.

Have you noticed all the automation replacing these service jobs?

 

You are claiming this is the only store ans the only people affected? You do understand we customers will be paying the higher prices and suffer less service. You do understand we the taxpayer will be laying the unemoloyment and welfare for those laid off? Stop with the tired old canards is it btter paying welfare while people sit at home or to subsidize working people?

 

No one forces them to work at minimum wge jobs or to not improve the value of their labor. Require peoole to work and watch the low pay labor force shrink and companies will have to increase pay.

Do you even understand cost ofnlabir to a business?

 

You can set a minimum wage but that doesn’t say employers will hire people at those rates. If a business can’t afford to pay the government mandated wage, people won’t be hired, and some will lose their job.

It’s better for people to working and receiving assistance from the government, if necessary, than having them totally unemployed and completely on state sponsored welfare. The disparity in the distribution of wealth, which I think you have exaggerated, has nothing do with the fact that able bodied adults should be employed.

 

Probably because you never ran a business and do not understand labir cost.

Define "living wage". Then tell me why no matter the value of the job to an employer it must be paid. A spouse of a plumber who already makes $100,000 and merely wants to bring some extra cash into the family doesn't need a "living wage". My first few years I had roommates and shared expenses because I didn't make a "living wage" or else could improve where I did live byndoing so.

No one OWES you a standard of living or this "living wage". If there is a certain wage you need ot live THEN GO EARN IT. Do what is necessary to make your labor worth it and then get a job that pays it. Work your way up in the job you hold by insuring the company is successful and the owners make money.

Not a penny goes to the employer in fact being taxpayers they hace to help pay it.

Do you even see the fallacy of your statement?

Did you know some Walmart managers earn almost a quarter MILLION a year?

A Day in the Life of a Walmart Manager Who Makes $240,000 a Year

.....About 20 years ago, then 19 years old and a mother of two, she started part-time at the same Walmart she now runs. Her first job was cooking live lobsters pulled from a tank in the deli.

Just out of high school, she needed something stable—a job available to people without a college degree.

“That’s when I realized, this might not be my favorite job, but I can develop pictures or manage clothing at Walmart. I can get promoted,” says Hart, now 40 years old and a mother of four. “I figured out I was good at this, and it was something achievable for me.”

Hart became the photo-lab department manager, then ran the apparel section. She was promoted to run a store in 2018 before she took over the Bellmead one in 2021. Now, like many Walmart Supercenter managers, she oversees hundreds of workers and more than $100 million in annual sales.

Last year, she was paid a $119,000 salary and a roughly $120,000 bonus. Hart doesn’t find the job overwhelming because she likes to stay busy and enjoys people. “The hardest thing is the uncertainty,” she says. “You don’t know what you are going to walk into.”

https://www.wsj.com/business/retail...art-manager-who-makes-240-000-a-year-3248037f

We don't tax wealth. I have given you the numbers the highest earners already pay. When are you going to tell us how much more a share of taxes they should be paying?

The WORKERS at Amazon are fighting and voting to keep the unions out because they are quite happy with their jobs and pay.

 

Unlike plutocratic socialists, capitalists understand that demand rivals supply in creating a thriving economy. By undercutting the purchasing power of workers/consumers on the demand side of the economic equation via low wages, an economy cannot grow and becomes stagnant due to the inability of workers/consumers to purchase the goods and services of the supply side of the economy.

By more than doubling wages and creating "worker shareholders," Henry Ford was able to both reduce assembly line turnover and create an expanded customer base for his Model T automobile.

 

Then the risk incurred by the supply side of the economy is low, therefore, the return on investment should be low as well. In other words, the wealth gap between labor and capital should not be as great as it is presently.

 

If your assumption is true, why are we experiencing the current inflation? If demand is low relative to supply, prices should be increasing as quickly.

As for the Lincoln quote, no ever said he was right 100% of the time. He was also a politician who had to appeal to the working class.

 

Have you ever worked in a management position where you had to oversee unionized workers? I have, and I can give you plenty of reasons why unions suck. The only industry where unions seem to work without hostility, fighting, etc, is the pro sports industry, and even they have problems sometimes.

 

Just popped in the thread to see if lefties are still defending this foolishness and I was not disappointed.

 

There are multiple reasons for inflationary pressures, including but not limited to the following:
The COVID-19 pandemic disrupted markets and supply chains.
Volatility of energy prices, including in part, the war in Ukraine.
Corporate greed.

Nevertheless, unlike today's right-wing socialists, Lincoln understood the importance of labor in a thriving economy.

 

Actually, the tax payers are subsidizing localized inflation largely caused by local and state governments.

Wages and minimums are just the symptom.

California has made its business environment unfriendly and unprofitable. This is the agenda of the progressive left, use taxation as social justice and to engineer outcomes.

It's a failed ideological agenda, and progressives double down constantly and are incapable if seeing it is THEM that keeps creating the problems they have to fix.

 

Wages are driven by the labor market. End of story.

Labor laws, subsidizing, etc. don't truly fix anything. Just kicks the can down the road.

We have a huge availability of unskilled labor and a massive short of skilled, trained, and professional labor.

Why do you think that is.

 

Lol.

Yeah, let's pretend this is the same thing.

Once again, this is not an all-or-nothing situation, which you ALWAYS have to make your arguments based around.

 

You mean a RIGGED labor market:
The top 1% of American earners now own more wealth than the entire middle class
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...earners-more-wealth-middle-class/71769832007/

Robert Reich: Most billionaires are not “self-made.” They’re made via a combination of inherited wealth, government subsidies, tax loopholes, labor exploitation, and policy failures. Can we stop perpetuating a myth that blames wealth inequality on the choices of everyday Americans?

 

it's simple as you work you build skills. Any job you have you're going to get any skills from it. The skills are worth money if you're too lazy to seek out more money for your skills that's on you and you shouldn't make any more money if you want to live to your life so it's your burden.

Nobody else should be able to do your living room for you and all you're going to do by making $20 the minimum wage the cost of everything else go up so $20 won't be livable anymore.

minimum wage on demanding people that purchase labor must value edit certain rate. You can't tell people that something's worth something unexpected an economy you can't tell people that something's worth something unexpected an economy doing it you can't tell people that something's worth something unexpected an economy doing it that you can't tell people that Bieber is worth this benchmark amount regardless of having any other standing the labor and what value produces for the employer and having autonomy that functions. You'll just be chasing your tail eternally.

Labor is where wealth comes from it's not the government it's not from money. So if someone who scoops ice cream is worth $20 well now $20 is worth whatever the minimum wage was before.

Almost does is divide the currency up anymore it doesn't make more wealth. What comes from producing not from numbers.

 

Skills. When you work a job you gain skills. If you have the type of skills an employer needs you have something they need and I have something you need so you bargain.

If you don't have any skills should be because you're completely incompetent and I've seen people that suffer with down syndrome gain marketable skills so in order to be that incompetent something has to be desperately wrong with you. Or you're lazy. Also there's a lot of people that don't know what their skills are.

What is made by producing something either a good or a service it's not made by handing people more money for something that isn't worth that amount of money.

 

Pardon me for not taking very seruously the advice of a several times losing businessman.

Labor does nothing without capital formation and a profit motive. Labor is an expense to a business. Labor has a certain value to the company which is part of the cost of the busness or service. It is not a charity. Expanding his "consumer base" had nothing to do with his wage rates. The value of his labor rose if it was retained and he reduced or at least stabilzed that cost by making his wage more competitive tham what the workers could gain doing seasonal work other jobs because they got tired of the assembky line demands.

And it was not automatic

Workers still made $2.30 and were given a $2.70 bonus if they followed all of the company's requirements.

Here's how workers would be eligible:

abstain from alcohol
not physically abusive toward their families
not take in boarders
keep homes clean
contribute to a savings account
In addition, inspectors from the company would go to the workers' homes to see the living conditions and if workers were following the requirements. Workers resented this intrusion into their personal lives, and his department dedicated to checking on workers at home was later dissolved.

...https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/henry-ford-implements-5-per-day-wage-this-day-in-history/

 

Did you only make minimum wage your entire life?

 

Not one single person is poorer because another is wealthy.

That's a zero sum economic theory and it's false. It's what the class warfare people sell, because it's easy to sell, but it's not true.

Name one person that is less wealthy because Jeff Bezos started Amazon.

 

That is because those two companies hire a lot of part-time workers and a lot of people work just enough hours to max their Earned Income Tax Credit. Walmart's hourly wages are pretty comparable to every one else in that sector. I would love to eliminate the EITC. That is the cesspool from which a lot of our tax fraud originates.

 

Yep and increase the value of your labor to your employer and have proof of it for future. Worked for me all my life.

 

JFC….D you even read what I post?

One fosters freeze store is not an epidemic. BUT , I clearly stated that when these business’ pay minimum wages, we the taxpayer subsidize those wages, thus we are subsidizing the business. Thats why the $20 hr California law it a good thing. We (the taxpayers) subsidize these companies because they don't pay enough!

 

You’re being beyond obtuse. You post incessantly, just like this post, that we cant force wages, yet you REFUSE to accept that when the employer doesn't pay a living wage that employee qualifies for government assistance which we the tax payer pay for !!!!

Dear god man…..we ARE subsidizing the wages of those workers, which IS subsidizing the employer. 2+2=4 in realityland, but in Trumplandia apparently not…

NO, your being obtuse

Last year over 14,000 Wal-Mart employees received government assistance. But thanks again for proving my point. Just like the Walton family who are all multi-BILLIONAIRS, we the taxpayers re subsidizing their employees. Its just a FACT

You picked out one employee, and to claim that all employees are paid that wage, and you’re just wrong. I will say it again, and again, and agin, NOBODY WHO WORKS A FULL TIME JOB SHOULD REQUIRE SUBSIDIZED FINANCES TO LIVE!!!!

OH FFS!!!

YEAH you go with that….

 

YES, some unions go overboard. But the inverse is the taxpayers subsidizing the employer. Why do righties tell people that dont make enough money to “find another job”, yet when an employer doesn't pay enough to the employee, we just accept that you and I are just going to make up the difference for him so his employees can live ?