Assassinated Iranian general involved in 'planning and execution' of October 7 Hamas massacre: repor

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  1. Joe knows

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    https://www.foxnews.com/world/assas...ing-execution-october-7-hamas-massacre-report



    I say if they attack Israel we demolish Iran. They admitted to being involved in Oct 7th so the Israeli attack was a response to aggression. We should let Iran know that if they escalate this issue we will rock their world so hard that it will take them centuries to recover. Biden should be vocal as hell about this.
     
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    Briben has failed. The USA has never appeared this weak in our history. I believe Obama is calling the shots.
     
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    Even assuming this is true, are you really advocating yet another US invasion of a Middle eastern country ?
    And yet you righties won't support Ukraine and keep fawning over Putin ?
     
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    Yes. I am advocating that. You also will never find a single post of mine smearing the Ukraine effort other than saying Biden is being too soft. We should have enforced a no fly zone. Expressing weakness is what’s causing this whole problem all over the world.
     
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    Ah, another war in the Middle East, advocated by the Right.

    Without mentioning various of the many down sides of such an undertaking, how would you pay for such an undertaking ? Raise taxes on the wealthy and businesses ? War is expensive.
     
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    With the deficit we have now, nothing will ever be paid for. Tell me, do you ask the same questions when you were getting a free $10,000 for COVID? How about when Biden gives his billions in college forgiveness? How about Obamacare? You seriously want to talk about spending when it only is a concern for what you think it’s a concern over and just ignore the rest?

    War creates safety. . If Iran was wiped out they wouldn’t be able to fund the proxies that cause Middle East problems. They are the instigators that need to be dealt with.
     
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    aye that it be...I mean, without wanting to sound flippant...but bearing in mind that over the years Israel has had something like USD350Bn from the US tax payers....(is that about right??).....anyway whatever the sum it's a crap ton of cash which has already been coughed over so wouldn't the US want to simply protect it's investment? You're pretty much all in anyway and you haven't any other real allies in the region.....so.....why not? US is shrinking back from Ukraine and going insular in other regions but it's not in the interests of the US to show anymore signs of weakness... specially with Suez next door (which I presume being the reason for all the interest in a geo-politically located Israel??)
     
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    Not to mention that if Iran was out of the equation Israel wouldn’t need as much defense funding.
     
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    ..indeed!! One of my major bugbears when the US ploughed full throttle into Afghanistan was instead of nuancing their relations with Pakistan they went all alpha big guns and instantly pissed them off......Pakistan would have been a perfect fit as a counterweight for the US with Iran....but again...burnt bridges.....
     
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    I like how you get one person's opinion and now you like to pretend that the entire right-wing of the entire nation of near hundreds of millions of people.... All have the same opinion because one guy here said it...... I don't think Joe cares for Trump very much so maybe he's one of yours ;)

    What do you think we should do to a nation that kills 30 Americans?
     
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    Why do you righties love killing people so much ? You are all about punishment, prisons, deportation, and yes, killing anyone who isn't white and christian.

    COVID ? No, that's my government looking out for me and making sure I can be productive and pay my taxes.
    College loans ? No, that's my government looking out for me and making sure I can be productive and pay my taxes without descending into indentured servitude.
    Obamacare ? You do mean the Affordable Care Act, right ? No, that's my government looking out for me and making sure I can be productive and pay my taxes without descending into indentured servitude if I have a major medical problem.

    If you righties are so concerned about the budget, then just don't take any government money or benefits.
     
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    Yes, you’re absolutely right. I didn’t mention attacking them for the people that they target and kill just because they’re not white. Maybe you can quote that for me so I can see where I mentioned race and religion or was this some liberal magic trick that you can read what was never written?

    obviously im talking about attacking them for their hand in the murders of Oct 7. But those lives don’t matter to you right? Why is that?
     
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    Lmao so free money from the government helps you pay your taxes? How much of that government money went back to the government? How were you productive with that money?
     
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    How exactly is this good for society? You had the money for college. You signed that loan not me or the tax payer. This is theft of the tax payer and a bribed vote. Nothing about this is productive and doesn’t fix the larger problem at all. It’s political pandering that I hope our legislators write a bill to force you to pay back the stolen money that even the Supreme Court said was not constitutional
     
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    Actually I did give back my money from COVID. Someone has to be responsible for the adolescent children in this country that call themselves adults.
     
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    Government is your daddy and the democrat party is your mommy.
     
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    @Joe knows

    No, the COVID money allowed me to pay my bills when business was down 70% and return to help my company turn a profit when business returned.
    That was good for society.
    My college education was paid for, partly, by the US Navy. I did my time, got out, and paid off the rest of my student loans working for the private sector using what I had learned.
    That was good for society.

    I'm sure you paid back you COVID money, really I am.
     
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    We? What happened to "no new wars"?

    I agree we should help Israel defend itself, but I'd say "no" to going all-in with another massive ME crusade, when Iraq fiasco was only 10 yrs ago. Defending Israel with Navy and Air Force should be relatively easy due to its small size (it's 6 times smaller than Florida, or 17 times smaller than Vietnam). Any corner of Israel can be reached very quickly by a military jet.
     
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    We can’t count on Biden during this election year. He needs the pro-Hamas lefties to beat Trump. He’ll leave Israel to fend for themselves for the good of The Party. Divide and conquer is Iran’s goal.
     
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    The no new wars thing is already a myth. There are wars we are heavily involved in both financially and militarily. We are by all means active in Israel’s defense with our own military assets as you point out. We are also very heavily involved financially on two fronts. If Iran continues to exist as it does today we will always be involved in Israel’s defense being they fund and supply Israel’s enemies. It will never end so long as they exist at the same level of involvement….. Never!

    We will literally never solve the problem by allowing the problem to persist.

    this war won’t be new, it would be a war to end the wars Iran pushes all over that region.
     
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    You are well aware I’m speaking of the college forgiveness not military funded college. When you said those forgiveness programs were designed for you, then you can understand my assumption in you taking loan forgiveness.
     
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    We tried to "solve" is in the 1980s during Iraq-Iran war by getting involved, but it didn't solve anything, - it only made things worse.
     
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    We have never went to war with Iran. We funded proxies (Iraq) but that doesn’t work as shown and will be shown again with Iran and Ukraine
     
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    What would work? All-out assault, invasion, regime change and occupation, and permanent bases around the country- like we did in Iraq? I should mention that Iran is 4 times as big as Iraq and population twice as large, and military almost 3 times as large.
     
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    And their citizens, a large portion, would not resist our presence. I talk to some on a game I play and they’re no fan of their current regime. They have to get VPN’s to even look at the outside world. We also took Iraq in very little time. Our continued presence was necessary for our interests in the region. The world is safer for ousting iraqs leader. Their military has already been proven insufficient to toy with us.

    Hell, we had them so scared during Trump that they shot down their own airliner.
     
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