Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    These trials are election interference.
     
  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    It sucks for you people that a comedian is the most intellectual mind you have.
     
  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Even you know that won't happen...lol
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

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    Oh, I'm sure that would make you feel better about the crimes Trump has committed, but no, no one indicts anyone without probable cause. You do know that's how justice works, right?
     
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    Bill was impeached, prosecutors felt they didn't have a strong enough case against Hillary to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. As for Joe Biden, there is no evidence on Joe Biden.

    They've already been spoken to. Apparently you didn't get the memo.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    Yeah, right.

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    Well, if Trump is worried about that, he should never have committed so many crimes.
    Maybe so, but tradition has it to give the nomination to the incumbents.

    You'll just have to live with it.
     
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    Blane your hero. He delayed himself into this timeline.
     
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    I thought Trump's legal woes made him even more popular.

    You should be happy.
     
  9. JohnHamilton

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    No, he'll lose it because the low information voters will think that at least 1% of the indictments are valid. Ignorance has long been in the side of the Democrats.

    If you would ever watch Biden on TV, you would see that he is mentally incompetent and incapable of executing the duties required to be President. But I know you get your news from CNN and MSNBC, and that you will see none of that.
     
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    No, your side sat on them for two years waiting to turn your witch trials into an election year tactic.
     
  11. Arkanis

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    61% of the postgraduate vote for democrats.

    59% of those with only a high school degree are Republicans.
     
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    You are predictably redundant. :)

    Just let us know when you have the evidence against Biden.
     
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    What crimes has Trump committed??
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    Hardly. The kind of prosecution in NY under Bragg is routine for his department, as this Atty/aid to Bragg explains:


    This is not a civil lawsuit, it is a criminal trial. The NY electorate was defrauded. Read the indictment for full particulars.
    Are you kidding? Trump went around in rally after rally, months before the first ballot was ever cast, and declared 'the only way Democrats can win is if they rig the election', creating an atmosphere of hate and suspicion, that when the election was over, and Trump lost, and reports of election irregularities came in, noting that such irregularities are common to all elections and none prove a massive conspiracy, Trump exploited that fact to a gullible base, destroying confidence in AMerican democracy to some 65,000,000 people, an unprecedented destructive act in history, then conspired with several corrupt attorneys (some have already plead guilty) to engage in a fake elector scheme, which eventually became illegal. Then Trump tried to persuade Pence to delay the Joint Session of Congress by remanding the electoral votes back to the states, which is unconstitutional (because all state election challenges have to be accomplished before the safe harbor date), Trump and his co-conspirators also tried to get State election officials to swap out Biden's elector victories with Trump slates of electors, which is illegal solicitation. Trump also tried to get Pence, by delaying the joint session of congress, to get him to throw the election to the house, where he and the republicans knew they had a two state majority in the state delegations, thus he'd retain power. And then he further delayed the joint session to congress, violently in his speech,constituting an illegal disruption of the peaceful transfer of power, where he, over 20 times, told his base that the only way they can keep their country is to 'fight like hell', squashing the meager single attempt he mentioned a fleeting fashion 'to go peacefully' (a spoonful of goodwill doesn't quell a truck load of ill will) and, because of the months of his inculcating in the minds of his base, that 'Democrats stole the election' leading to the 'stop the steal mantra', this erupted in a volcanic fashion on 1/6 causing a JUGGERNAUT OF RAGE in his followers who then charged on the capitol, committing violence and mayhem resulting in 140 injuries and 6 deaths, whereupon he, despite many attempts by his close staff and adult children imploring him to stop the attack, he sat watching TV for 3 hours before he did something about it, not to mention that his sending the message to his base that Pence 'betrayed them' (by not complying with his request to remand votes back to the states) the 'betrayal' of which triggered them even more into a fevered frenzy, after 3 hours he finally sent out a video where he declared 'they were beautiful and he loved them', and finally sent them home. What Trump did violated numerous state and federal laws, not to mention abuses of power for which he as impeached, and acquitted by a cowardly Republican senate of whom were intimidated by his violent base, his mean tweets, and the overall wrath of Trump and his base, so they acquitted him. But, the violations of law remained.

    Now, what did Gore do? NOTHING ILLEGAL.
    Clearly you are not aware of the facts.
    Trump not senile? Are you paying attention?

     
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  15. Izzy

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    LOL

    We know that you just can't admit that Kimmel and ilk are hilarious and right on about Trump.
    Actually I can't blame you, I'd be embarrassed too if he was my boy wonder.


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    I agree, the election should be on the issues

    ' trump stopped a bill written by the GOP senate from being voted on to solve the immigration chaos
    ' trump is mentally ill
    'the evidence of corruption in the trump family, Jarod and saudi arabia are dirty
    ' trump is a private citizen and should be held to the same standard as other private citizens
    ' trump is a clown on the world stage ..other world leaders laugh at trump ..
    the entire world sees trump as mentally unstable..
    ' the illegal scamming of the tax system by large corporations..everyday americans pay ..so should corporations
    ' the supreme court was packed by donald trump and now are delaying ruling to trumps advantage
    ' trump invited the taliban to camp david
    ' Inflation in the USA is in the lowest bracket of the world,,and unemployment at an all time low
    ' trump ran up the US deficit more than any president in history..
    ' if a person wants BIG Oil to continue to run the world. then stop searching for alternate energy
    like it or not..the world is changing and so is the energy sector
    ' the government should not force companies to produce products that are not safe or efficient. it is not regulation that stop products from being produced.. lack of consumers demand is why old fashioned appliances are not being produced

    above are the reasons most Americans wont vote for trump

    I too. am not interested in trials in New York city..

    trump will be found not guilty on some charges and guilty on others
    he will appeal every judgment and will not take responsibility for his actions

    nothing trump does or says matters, he is a loser and irrelevant on the world stage
    the entire world sees trump as a loser...

    trump has captured the GOP and it is now a hostage to trump

    it is almost like the GOP wants to lose by backing trump
     
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  17. TomFitz

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    You’re just making it up now.

    I notice that the remaining hard core Trump cultists are pretty much reduced to doing that now.
     
  18. fullmetaljack

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    Really ? Doesn't the state have the right to due process as well ? As long as they stick to the letter of the law, I'm sure they can slow walk the appeal.

    But what do you care, all that matters is protecting the Orange Stain and to hell with the Constitution, right ?
     
  19. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    No, actually...lol.

    Slow walking the appeal goes against the letter of the law.

    You obviously don't understand the Constitution. It's truly unbelievable how little understanding you all have of the Constitution.
     
  20. Noone

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    It's tRaitor tRump that claimed the low intellect group for his very own.
    I don't know who you've been watching but President Biden has made a great showing EVERY time he's spoke of late; his State of The Union address was a tour de force that stands with any of the past.
    Actually I get only a bit of news from those sources, but, it's evident that you feed ferociously on a steady diet of FAR right pabulum.
     
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    Thank goodness Hamilton didn't live to see this $hit show.
     
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    WAPO Updates:

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    Jury selection continues in Trump’s New York hush money trial'


    A charter-school teacher paused at question 34: “Do you have any strong opinions or firmly held beliefs about former President Donald Trump, or the fact that he is a current candidate for president that would interfere with your ability to be a fair and impartial juror?”

    “I’m not going to sit here pretend, being from my generation, during that campaign there was a divide in the country,” she said. But she added that she did not attribute that to one person, so she did not think it would prevent her from being impartial in this case.


    KEY UPDATE
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    How The Post is deciding what to publish about potential jurors
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    As part of the jury selection process for Donald Trump’s hush money case, New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan has ruled that the names of potential jurors should be shielded and has taken other steps to prevent their identities from becoming public.'

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  23. Izzy

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    BBC live updates:

    1. 11:42
      After two-thirds of jury panel dismissed, questioning gets serious


      Reporting from court

      After a few swaps, sicknesses, and dismissals, the first batch of 18 jurors who were initially placed in the jury box are done reading out their questionnaires.

      Each juror is now going to be questioned by the Manhattan District Attorneys office and Trump’s lawyers. They will be able to object to prospective jurors, but only so many times.

      This is merely one round of what could be several cycles of questioning as the judge, prosecutors, and defence attorneys work to winnow down a jury pool of hundreds into 12 people they think are best to judge whether Trump committed a crime.



    2. Posted at 11:3611:36
      Many people have been excused, what happens to those who remain?


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    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-68791691?src_origin=BBCS_BBC
     
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    Yes, actually.

    Good luck to the defense arguing that in court. As long as the state doesn't miss a deadline it's not against the letter of the law.

    You obviously don't understand the Constitution or due process. It's truly unbelievable how little understanding you all have of the Constitution.
     
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      • Posted at 11:3611:36
        Many people have been excused, what happens to those who remain?

        Reporting from court

        Nearing the end of the morning session in court, we have several jurors who are still in the running.

        But that doesn't mean they've been picked to serve.

        Both the defence and prosecutors are entitled to dismiss prospective jurors they have concerns about.

        In this case, each side has 10 "peremptory" challenges, meaning they can dismiss a prospective juror for no reason (but not for racial or other biases).

        After that, they have an unlimited number of challenges "for cause", meaning they must have a sufficient explanation for not wanting them to serve.

      • nt:
        https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-68791691?src_origin=BBCS_BBC

     

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