Fantasy Demolished - U.S. Climate Goals Threatened by "Green" Power demands

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by JBG, Mar 19, 2024.

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Should we go "full blast" on "Green" measures or weigh cost, benefit, efficacy?

  1. Keep going full blast on "green" measures, the market will produce enough power

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  2. Weigh costs and benefits

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  3. Stop or materially delay "climate" initiatives?

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  1. Zorro

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    They got orgasmic about gas lines in 1974 and 1979.
     
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    But it ain't gonna happen in the next twenty years; giving us plenty of time to build a system that relies on a consistent, reliable and abundance source - nuclear energy - if climate change is as drastic as you guys claim, how do we now wind and solar with be as available is it is two day. With all the cataclysmic disasters you guys cry about, how do we know wind patterns will continue?
     
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    I feel like a broken record. The "environmentalists" want to restrict the average person's life style. They don't care about the "environment."
     
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    And you SHOULD feel like a broken record. Because all you do is mindlessly repeat what science denialists recorded in your brain. In reality, NOBODY is restricting anybody's average life style. That's a MYTH.

    Here. THIS is what "environmentalists" want to restrict...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/what-do-we-do-about-climate-change.611869/
     
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    Lawmakers Hope To Use This Emerging Climate Science To Charge Oil Companies For Disasters

    A fast-emerging field of climate research is helping scientists pinpoint just how many dollars from a natural disaster can be tied to the historic emissions of individual oil companies — analysis that is the centerpiece of new state efforts to make fossil fuel companies pay billions for floods, wildfires and heat waves.

    When a flood or wildfire hits, researchers in “attribution science” run computer models to help determine whether the disaster was caused or intensified by climate change.

    As those models become more precise, other scientists are working to measure how specific companies, such as Exxon Mobil or Shell, have contributed to climate change through their historic greenhouse gas emissions.

    “This is a growing field, and it’s a game changer for addressing climate change,” said Delta Merner, the lead scientist for the Science Hub for Climate Litigation at the Union of Concerned Scientists, a climate-focused research and advocacy nonprofit. “It has a role to play in litigation and in policy, because it gives us that precision.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...science-to-charge-oil-companies-for-disasters

    Holding them responsible is a step in the right direction.
     
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    Total BS. Science cannot even tell us to what extent CO2 output influences the environment, let alone being able to determine how much of say, a hurricane, was caused and a company could be held liable for. Total BS. This is what progressive folks fantasize about in the luxury of their faith. Totally laughable.

    Tell you what. If I can hold say BP liable for their contribution, I can just as easily hold you, as a person liable. Perhaps you thought you'd be immune to these liabilities... Which is funny, but not in a good way.
     

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