Are you for or against the potential Tik Tok ban?

If the govt does enough crap, some of it will eventually help accidentally. Statistically speaking.

 

i.e. "a broken clock is still right twice a day"

 

Doubt there's much to learn from idiots making Tik Tok videos. It's far more likely that, if China is doing anything against us with Tik Tok, they are using it to spread misinformation, which they would be able to do regardless of who owns it.

That said, I don't care if the app goes away. There are similar apps already, and honestly, the culture on Tik Tok is full of complete slobbering morons, from all walks of life and all political persuasions.

 

This shows the political power of Facebook and Google. They just took out their competition. The oligarchical power of these companies is colossal. The government, the MSM and the oligarchs all have a strong vested interest in keeping the people on the same reservation where the curated narrative of the elite is the only speech allowed.

 

I guess you are looking at those Tic Tok ads the company is running on TV that shows how kinder and gentler the Chinese Communist controlled company is. The concerns about the company are bipartisan.

 

"Instead of targeting a single app, why doesn’t congress pass uniform privacy and data security laws that would apply to all companies that operate in the US?"

this could also reduce foreign outsourcing if they could not access the data from overseas

 

Which is just theoretical at best. It isn't like it is the only app that uses chinese software anyway. Some of the shopping apps do as well.

 

You didn’t answer my question or provide a single source. You also failed to even address what I stated as a solution for this.

I don’t know why you believe just because something is bipartisan it is just. Do you use that same line of reasoning when discussing the bipartisan surveillance reauthorization or the trump impeachments?

So again, why are you ok with targeted bills that will only impact one company when pretty much all companies are stealing and selling user data? Don’t we need a much more comprehensive bill to address this?

 

I don't think we should freely allow the government to ban content and apps sets a really slippery slope.

 

China is attempting to take down the U.S. That doesn't seem to bother a lot of people. I think parents should keep children off of Tik Tok not government. Government should start getting serious about defending us from China. We should stop issuing visas to Chinese citizens and make those with expired visas leave the country. We should stop allowing imports from China. We should not allow China to own American assets of any sort. The problem is serious. China is our greatest enemy after federal government. Tik Tok is an afterthought.

 

It certainly goes against the first amendment. Tik Tok isn't breaking any laws. Let's declare China an enemy of our nation and start acting like it. There are bigger fish to fry than Tik Tok.

 

I dont do tic tok, but giving the CCP access to our children is a problem. What our own government is doing to them is bad enough!

 

I don't have a Tik Tok account, and I've never even been at the site.

To me, it's asinine beyond belief that the Federal Government of the United States of America wastes time, effort, and energy trying to micromanage some silly amusement like political forums or chitty-chat sites. We let the southern border of our country go completely to hell, but we've got time and attention for some horse's ass thing like Tik Tok? Unbelievable!

 

I have nothing to do with Tic Tok and will never have anything to do with it as long as it is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. The dictator of China, Xi, means us nothing but harm. Our intelligence agencies have banned it for government agencies. It is being used to spread anti Israel, pro Hamas propaganda.

I know only what I read and hear on the news. If that is not good enough for you, too bad. I know the libertarians don’t like this divestiture because they believe in free choices, occasionally to the detriment of national security. I know the kids, who don’t know what’s going on, don’t like it. The far left supporters of Communist China don’t like it. None of those groups tell me what to think.

 

So by “news” you mean “Fox News” or other right wing media. I have actually looked into this from unbiased sources and it seems TikTok is doing more than it’s American peers.

That you really cannot explain why they are only targeting this single company because of what you are scared China has access to (that controls a minority position in the company) but don’t seem to care that American companies do far worse and then sell the data on the open market shows this issue is more propaganda than actual solutions

 

I am against it for several reasons. (For the record, I don’t use TikTok and frankly find it annoying.)

First, the threat that it poses to national security would be minimal if tiktok moved its servers to Texas, as it offered to do. That way US data privacy laws would protect user data. But Congress ignored thar.

The reason Congress ignored it goes to my second reason for opposing the ban. the real reason TikTok is being banned is that Facebook paid a lot of money lobbying for the ban. This is just a dirty way for facebook to limit its competition.

This is one of those rare moments where I agree with Trump.

 

It’s good that you are among Tik Tok and the Chinese Communists’ fans. It is indeed sad that you can’t browbeat everyone else to agree with you.

 

I think Americans should be free to choose their own services. I understand that you need big government led by big corporations to shut down competition though.

It’s funny as **** that you believe someone asking you for facts and data is them browbeating you though.

 

Seems more likely they want China to cough it up so an American company and investors can get a windfall. Either way, like I said before, unless you apply the law to all tech companies using chinese software, it feels like a bill of attainder to me.

 

I think they just want Tik Tok separated from the Chinese Communist Party in order to operate in the US.

The Chi-Coms are also funding the illegal fentanyl coming over Bribed Joe's Open Borders. In many ways, the conduct themselves far more like an enemy than a trading partner.

Lawmakers Ask IRS To Investigate Chinese Funding Of Anti-Israel Protests

'...expressing concerns that “foreign adversaries are taking advantage of loopholes to impact American political activity with little-to-no transparency.”'

A lot of those tent look alike. I wonder who is purchasing and deliverying them.

 

The drug trade is as active as the NEED for it on this side of the border. If people didn't buy it, the sources would dry up. As long as some want/ need drugs no amount of border control will affect the trade. It might decrease it some, but they will find a way as the demand is there. Each time a person CHOOSES to "try " or experiment with drugs....they are opening the door to the Pandora's box of addiction......where it no longer is a choice, but a need. (physical and psychological). Then the "choice" is to feed the addiction, or go to rehab , once they realize they are hooked.

 

The only thing good about Tik Tok is that it can't be controlled by our leftwing censors. I suppose that is the appeal for some. All these little fact check boxes and shadow banning that goes on at Youtube is disgusting. I'm not sure if there is a hair's worth of difference as it relates to selling personal info. If it is a true risk, I'm good with banning it I guess. But it would be nice if we held our own social media platforms to the same standard.

 

The reason for the single company target is the difference of the ownership of the company. In this case the owner is an enemy nation.

 

So you are fine with an American company stealing out data and then selling it to the highest bidder but want to put a stop to it because you feel China is taking data that they have spent 2 billion in Texas to act as a barrier?

Ok bro

A data privacy bill — something all other first world nations have — would fix this across the board. But as usual Americans don’t seem to be able to figure out out to do it