Students take Hamilton Hall at Columbia University

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    Radical students have now taken Hamilton Hall at Columbia University. In scenes that look like January 6 students and others have smashed windows and barricaded themselves in the building.

    Care to comment?
     
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    Academia has reaped what they have sown.

    Critical pedagogy is a philosophy of education and social movement that developed and applied concepts from critical theory and related traditions to the field of education and the study of culture.[1]

    It insists that issues of social justice and democracy are not distinct from acts of teaching and learning.[2] The goal of critical pedagogy is emancipation from oppression through an awakening of the critical consciousness, based on the Portuguese term conscientização. When achieved, critical consciousness encourages individuals to effect change in their world through social critique and political action in order to self-actualize.

    "Marcuse champions non-integrated forces of minorities, outsiders, and radical intelligentsia, attempting to nourish oppositional thought and behavior through promoting radical thinking and opposition. ....."

    "The intelligentsia is a status class of educated people engaged in the complex mental labours that critique, guide, and lead in shaping the culture and politics of their society."

    "Modern industrial societies have furthermore created an "affluent society", which in increasing comfort have disguised the exploitative nature of the system, and have therefore strengthened means of domination and control. Modern "affluent society" therefore limits opportunities for political revolution against capitalism....."
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Hall_(Columbia_University)

    Google maps also shows the department of American Studies located there, as well as Undergraduate Admissions. It appears to be the hub of Liberal Arts rot.
     
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    Academia is suffering it's own ignorance. This is funny.
     
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    Insurrection in our time. Looks like democrats are sending out the hounds again.. All they are missing these days are the white hoods....
     
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    Violence at Hamilton Hall or the Capital building should have no place in this country.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with protesting, but smashing windows to occupy buildings crosses the line. They should be held accountable. My guess: Most of these are not actual Columbia students, but outside agitators.
     
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    The chickens have come home to roost for many colleges. Too many college students are useful idiots for liberal causes, and now terrorists. Brainwashed by the liberal lefty professors who are the poorly raised kids and grandkids of yesterday's doped-up hippies. There was a time when male college students attended in coat and tie, dress pants, shined leather shoes, nice haircut, and had manners while respecting professors, property, and rules. Today there are too many who show up in torn jeans, tie-dyed T-shirt, sandals, and have never seen the inside of a barber shop. They are there to disrupt any way they can.
     
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    We need a 3 prong solution.

    First, these universities should fire the female presidents who are afraid of their students. Every student who has broken school policy in a protest should be permanently expelled. Armed guards should be installed at every entrance and only current students allowed on campus (and their parents). The local police should be invited onto campus to arrest anyone committing crimes, keeping in mind that violence, threats to individuals or groups, and treason are all crimes.

    The FBI should see that any foreign students expelled or arrested have their student Visa permanently revoked and are sent back to their country of origin. Also the FBI needs to investigate, including plants, the professors, student groups, etc. to learn where these anti-American ideas are coming from.

    The media should be plastering these kids' pictures, as well as their names, on TV. Their parents need to be embarrassed. Why? Because the offspring can be "defunded". My guess is even the ones attending school on scholarships are receiving a living allowance from their parents. These rioters all seem to wear masks; they're not afraid of covid and they're not afraid of their parents per se (every parent already recognizes their own child on TV). What they ARE afraid of is THEIR PARENTS' FRIENDS and potential employers seeing them. Because they realize that if their parents are embarrassed and can't show their faces at cocktail parties, their "funding" ends.
     
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    arrest those that break the law...

    one has the right to peacefully protest, if they are breaking windows and stuff it's not peaceful.... simple

    if we know who the 6 students are, arrest them
     
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    Yeah, I really need to comment on this. Columbia University is full of rot from the top down. The kind of rot that is destroying America. These occupying brats have no moral clarity whatsoever and they are being used by "administrative brats" who have no moral clarity and they all are being used by master puppeteers with a vision aka Rockefellers and the Soros's. I know what internal combustion is. A pile of damp hay on a hot summers day will self ignite and self destroy. That is a metaphor here. I would say LET THEM BURN IT DOWN!
     
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    You waited a long time to start "virtue signalling now!"
     
  13. JohnHamilton

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    I don't think that the failure of these college presidents has anything to do with gender. The problem is their philosophy.

    It is my understanding the board of the university has tied the hands of the college president. If that is true, the problem is systemic. If that board thinks that this student behavior is okay, all of them should be fired. If the university does not do that, then parents should know that Columbia is a very undesirable school and act accordingly.

    Foreign students who are involved in insurrections like this should be expelled from school and kicked out of the country. They should never be allowed to be students here again. If they want to be violent Muslim fundamentalists, they should stay in their own country.

    This is a tougher one. Yes, the kids should pay a penalty, like expulsion from school for at least a semester. If they committed property damage they should have to deal with the law. Putting a black mark on them forever is a bit harsh, but message should be clear that they crossed the line.

    As for outside agitators, they should be prosecuted. We also need to find out who is funding them and go after those individuals and trust funds.
     
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    were any unarmed women shot dead?
     
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    That is great. I am sure the RW will find hours of footage of the trespassers just standing around doing nothing. That should exonerate them as harmless tourists, who were just there for selfies. Why do I have a feeling that Johnson and the RW media (and probably you, too) will sing a different tune on this one?

    Me, on the other hand, I am consistent. I say, if they broke the law, arrest them and hold them accountable. Those troublemakers are giving the peaceful protestors a bad name.
     
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    did any break through barricaded doors, trying to get to the people on the other side?
     
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    were any unarmed women shot dead?
     
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    As I said earlier.....you are late to the game. I would suggest erecting a tent on a college campus without explicit permission violates the rules of conduct for that campus. Allowing that to slide begins the progression. It's like the brat in the grocery store yelling at Mom "I want it and I want it now!!" Laying on the floor, kicking and screaming, Mother concedes......that will be repeated in the next event.
     
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    Can anyone spot the differences between how the pro Hamas/anti Israel protests are being handled compared to the peaceful protest below?

    Middle schoolers who protested trans athlete’s participation are banned from future competitions

    Five West Virginia middle schoolers who protested a transgender athlete’s participation in a track and field competition have been barred from future meets — prompting the state attorney general to ask the US Supreme Court to weigh in on transgender student-athlete bans for a second time.

    West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey filed a lawsuit against the Harrison County Board of Education on the dissenting students’ behalf after they were blocked from upcoming meets following their protests at the April 18 shot put competition, West Virginia Watch reported.

    Five girls from Lincoln Middle School stepped up to the circle for their turn before refusing to throw in the event, which was won by Becky Pepper-Jackson, a 13-year-old girl who takes puberty-blocking medication and estrogen hormone therapy.
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    “Their actions at the earlier track meet were not disruptive or aggrandizing. They were the quiet demonstration of the student-athletes’ evident unhappiness with the competitive consequences of a federal appellate court’s decision,” Morrisey, a Republican currently primarying for governor, wrote in the amicus brief filed April 26.

    https://nypost.com/2024/04/30/us-ne...articipation-banned-from-future-competitions/
     
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    Again, were any unarmed women shot dead? That's a simple yes/no question
     
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    I wonder how many of them are actually students. I don't think anybody knows.
     
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    I’m sure none of the hateful anti Israel protesters were allowed into buildings by the cops and escorted around.
     
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    The governor of Florida has warned the college students in his state he will not tolerate such demonstrations. Good for Ron DeSantis, and you can bet your boots he means it.
    Just like the time no one knew how to handle the striking air traffic controllers. President Reagan just fired 'em.
    Just like the time right after WW2 when the railroad workers threatened to strike and President Truman said he would draft 'em into the Army and make 'em run the trains. They didn't strike and cripple the country.
    So where is President Biden and the governor of NY? They're hiding under their desk along with the president of Columbia Univ.
     
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    The lesson from Columbia: The protest is not getting much traction for several reasons.

    “The first reason is nobody cares. Jim Carville had a rant on Twitter and he said of 15 issues people under 30 were asked to rank, young people listed the Palestinian war as No. 15. . . . The well-funded communists who organize these protests may as well be talking about the Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict.”

    'The Palestinians are the authors of their own misfortunes, and everyone knows it, even the people who won’t admit it.'

    'Also, there’s a distinct shortage of giant puppets. How can you take a lefty protest seriously when they don’t bring the giant puppets?'

    A Leftist Flop. No Giant Puppets, No Traction.
     
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    Maybe he can pull a Kent State, that will show them. In any case, he is showing his authoritarian tendencies again, trying to suppress dissent using the threat of expulsion for merely demonstrating. He can only do this for public universities, though.
     

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