Justice Kavanaugh Warns Of Vicious Cycle Of Malicious Prosecutions That Could End Presidency

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Then you agree that Biden needs to be prosecuted.
     
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    And there it is ! You lose.
    Your unreasoning , unreasonable hatred for a successful government program created by , horrors a liberal Democrat , must really cause you great pain. Your warped view of history is equally unreasoning.

    Tell you what: go in peace . I’m sure your seething hate will keep you warm. Try and not let it consume you.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    You just don't get it-the impact that THREAT HAD was that The court started UPHOLDING the laws FDR signed. You clearly are unable to understand my point. You see I actually spent a year living in what was called CHARLES EVANS HUGHES HALL in law school. I knew the history of this guy front and back. NOW WITHOUT GOOGLING, tell me who the other Justice was that started siding with the liberal bloc after he and Hughes had often been part of the group striking down ND legislation BEFORE FDR THREATENED TO PACK THE COURT
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    what do I lose? a medal you awarded yourself? LOL. tell me what law school issued you a JD
     
  5. JohnHamilton

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    Unfortunately you ignored the issue. What someone finds a reason to sue Biden over his border policy after he leaves office? Should they be allowed to bankrupt Biden with legal expenses after he leaves office?

    Obama ordered drone strikes that killed an American citizen who was collaborating with ISIS in the Middle East. He was a bad guy, no doubt, but Obama took that action without authorization from the American courts or Congress. What if a relative of that person decides to sue Obama for that action?

    This is a very real issue that goes well beyond Trump.
     
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  6. StillBlue

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    I'm amazed that this argument is ever made. Republicans refused to vote, nor even discuss. an Obama candidate nearly a year before his term ended. Then they had the audacity to discuss and elect a replacement barely a month before an election despite every other time in history that a vacancy occurred that close to the election the president waited for the vote and then installed their candidate after reelection.
    Had traditions been respected there would be a 5-4 democrat majority. And now we see horse hockey like above.
     
  7. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

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    I'm amazed that this argument is ever made. Republicans refused to vote, nor even discuss. an Obama candidate nearly a year before his term ended. Then they had the audacity to discuss and elect a replacement barely a month before an election despite every other time in history that a vacancy occurred that close to the election the president waited for the vote and then installed their candidate after reelection.
    Had traditions been respected there would be a 5-4 democrat majority. And now we see horse hockey like above.
     
  8. JohnHamilton

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    The Supreme Court nominee was Merrick Garland, the current Attorney General, who is perhaps the most partisan, lawless Attorney General ever.
     
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    Yet was given absolutely no hearing, zip, nada, zero.
     
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    Just another step to the DNC final solution, fascism! And once these folks get a real look and FEEL of it, they'll bitch and whine "quietly" about how they TOO are getting screwed.. :roflol:

    I know how much weight the left put in Science ;)

    Regardless of Trump, DECADES....
     
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    Miguel Estrada and Peter Keisler-both top drawer legal scholars, nominated for a lower court, were subjected to the same abuse by the DEMOCRAT MINORITY in the senate and couldn't get a vote. WHY-the racist democrats didn't want Bush grooming Estrada to be the first Latino Justice and the Democrats hated the fact that Keisler-a Jew-was not only a brilliant conservative, he was the founder of the Federalist Society. So don't whine to me about Meritless Garland not getting a hearing-the democrats started that bullshit and have no room to complain when it was done to Garland.
     
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    I commend the effort, but debating with folks from other countries on U.S. politics? Seems like a waste of time really :( Especially countries like the DRC :shock:
     
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    I don't have opinions. I only have FACTS. Like, for example, that Trump did not "lock her up", that they had investigated Hillary before the elections for two years and came up empty, that they investigated wrongdoing regarding the Mueller investigation (the Steele Dossier) and came up with NOTHING, that they have been investigating Biden for over a year but they STILL can't even say what the crime they are investigating him for is... They keep doing these investigations over and over, at the expense of taxpayers, and they all end up being exactly what Kavanaugh is describing.

    NOTHING here is an opinion. They are all FACTS.
     
  14. StillBlue

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    Bad examples. Both had hearings and Kiesler failed Republican majority hearings, twice.
     
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    you fail to understand that this was before Dingy Harry got rid of the ability of the minority to prevent a vote on a candidate

    his credentials
    https://www.justice.gov/archive/olp/keisler-tps.htm

    his first nomination was blocked by two dems when the GOP had the senate

    (from Wiki)

    Originally, Keisler, a resident of Bethesda, Maryland and a practising lawyer in Washington, D.C., was considered for a Maryland seat on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit during the spring of 2001. Maryland's two Democratic senators, Paul Sarbanes and Barbara Mikulski, however, blocked the White House from making the nomination on the grounds that Keisler did not have strong enough ties to the Maryland legal community.[8] (ie bullshit)

    then when he was nominated for the DC CofA, the democrats refused to act on his nomination


    there was never a vote, so stop complaining about Garland.

    Estrada's treatment was equally disgraceful
     
  16. Bullseye

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    . Those are opinions. Clinton was found to have violated several laws, but the AG and the head investigator conspired to alter the working of the evidence so it wouldn't meet the stardard for charging her. As far as your other ranting - not a fact to be found in the entire blather. Ironic you'd complain about wasting time on Joe and Hill while actually as the head cheerleader for all the idiotic cases being thrown at Trump.
     
  17. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Lame excuse! Trump had COMPLETE control over the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court... his number one campaign promise was that he would "lock her up". He FIRED the AG. She wasn't even indicted!!!

    No politician has ever been investigated like Hillary... by her political rivals!!! And NO wrongdoing ever found, never charged, never indicted, ... This is why Hillary is the most exonerated politician in history.

    However, THIS is what Kavanaugh is talking about. It's REPUBLICANS who keep doing this. Unending investigations that take years and end in NOTHING... And they do it over and over....

    It's NOT an opinion that Hillary was never indicted. It's NOT an opinion that nobody was convicted by Durham. It's NOT an opinion that Jordan and other committees haven't come up with ... not even charge they can STATE (much less prosecute) against Biden.
     
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  18. Bullseye

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    LOL, a classic LW whine. Political tripe posing as debate. First off: No President has "complete control of Congress without a filibuster proof majority of loyal party members - Trump never came close And as I recall Dems controlled the House for half of his term. As for control of the Supreme Court- that's just f**king stupid; a loonie lab slogan.
    Hell Trump has been investigated more in the past year than Hillary has in her entire life. And the investigators and their superiors looked the other way and rewrote the investigation to ensure it contained no "elements of the crime" language which WOULD have required indictment
    . But isn't Kavanaugh a blind discipline of Trump as you accuse about?
    Logic, honesty, knowledge are all foreign concepts to you, huh?
     
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    Hah! You made my point. No President has complete control of Congress even WITH a filibuster majority UNLESS that party has become a cult. During the Trump administration, McConnell would have liked the sole of Trump's boots, if he had asked him to. A filibuster would have been meaningless in the PoT.

    But, of course, to put Hillary in prison (IF there were evidence against her) the only thing Trump would have needed was a simple prosecutor. Trump had 93 U.S. Attorneys. Not a single one of them would take the case! After all those investigations....
     
  20. StillBlue

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    Which is common when a president nominates a far fight or left candidate in a district of the opposite party. More telling was his next nomination was defeated by his own party.
     
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    Keisler was hardly far right. His nomination was not defeated by his own party. Neither was Estrada's
     
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    Had tradition been respected Reid wouldn't have used the nuclear option for lower federal courts. Which led to the nuclear option being used for SCOTUS.
     
  23. Bullseye

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    That's not a "point". It's LW looniness.
    McConnell was far from a Trump ally.
    Nope. The AG and lead invistigator ensured that the final report charges fell short of meeting the elements of the crime a prosecutor would need to bring an indictment.

    Again, for possible comprehension the final report brought by the lead investigator failed to accuse her of any chargeable crime. There were dozens of federal prosecutors that wanted to take the case but AG Comey made sure the report wouldn't support an indictment.
     
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    No, they are answerable to the law via Congress through impeachment. Not some puffed up low level activist judge. Why don't democrats read the Constitution some time.
     
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    was he having a beer when he said it, if a Candidate violates election laws, he should be held to account, otherwise why have election laws
     

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