Biden administration puts hold on US ammunition shipment to Israel: report

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  1. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/29...any-palestinians-detention-and-available-swap

    "The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial. Such detention can be renewed indefinitely based on secret information, which the detainee is not allowed to see. Administrative detainees are held on the presumption that they might commit an offense at some point in the future. Israeli authorities have held children, human rights defenders and Palestinian political activists, among others, in administrative detention, often for prolonged periods."

    Held without charge or trial? That is a hostage, exactly what Hamas is doing. Except Israel has over 7,000 as of November, and likely far more now.
     
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  2. fullmetaljack

    fullmetaljack Well-Known Member

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    You mean it isn’t fake news from desperate righties?

    Well, why didn’t you say so ! Imagine that, a desperate rightie telling the truth!
    I’ve never met a unicorn before. This is truly a moment I will remember.

    Are there any other righties in this thread telling the truth ? Please introduce them to me so I can have a rational discussion and debate about the topic of this thread.
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, NPR, which just got called out for being massively bias and one sided.

    Got it.
     
  4. fullmetaljack

    fullmetaljack Well-Known Member

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    And you ? What are your preferred news outlets ?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most I listen to my Google News feed which provides stories from NPR, Reuters, BBC, Fox, and from the AP.

    A good mix.l that creates balance.
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    lol it wasn’t the withholding that was the big issue…did you forget the rest?
     
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    Which side are we arming in that conflict? You catching on yet?
     
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  8. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have no idea what Levin said yet you just know it's fake news. How open minded, tolerant and non judgemental of you. You are what you accuse others of being/doing.
     
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    Oh, so you don't like it when someone uses your own tactic against you ? How very hypocritical of you.

    To receive respect, you must give respect.
     
  10. hawgsalot

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    As the sect of State spokesman said, they were holding it to help with negotiation. Anyone claiming fake news is FOS, but we already knew that. We'll see how long the Biden Admin support the terrorist on this, I mean they literally killed Israeli soldiers this week taking in humanitarian aid, but you stand down Israel. Ridiculous.
     
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    All the data on casualties in Gaza comes from Hamas. Anyone who blindly believes Hamas and supports their narrative is pro-Hamas and anti-Israel.
     
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    The New York Times recently re-hired a Hitler-loving journalist to cover - what else - the Israel-Hamas war. Not reliable at all.
     
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    One shipment out of how many? Israel already confirmed other shipments are still flowing. Fake news losing your minds of a single shipment.
     
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    wow so the Secretary of state that said yesterday they were holding to gain favor in negotiations is lying. Who knew, sorry i’m taking his word over a random far left partisan on a message board
     
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    How many shipments? One, many, or all?
     
  16. Steve N

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    If other shipments are still flowing, then was was the point of holding up this shipment? Was Biden trying to get a headline that would appease the pro hamas sect of his base, or was he trying to send a message to Israel?
     
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    It's to show that shipment can cease. If you are sending weapons to a country being used to kill people, surely you should have a little oversight it how it's being used?

    If Biden was trying to get a headline to appease the pro-hamas base as you say, why not stop all shipments?
     
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    the Humanitarian aid worker deaths did not come from Hamas
     
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    Amazing tune change for lefties. Hypocrites as usual, you literally impeached trump for withholding? 3,2,1 spin zone but he was trying to get dirt on Biden and change the election. All the while every level of political judiciary is going after Trump today over things like legal NDA's listed as legal expenses to change the outcome of the next election.
     
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    So what? How does it justify blindly believing what a terrorist organization claims?
     
  21. Steve N

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    If Biden stopped all shipments then he'd be accused of turning his back on an ally and then running away like he did in Afhanistan. In both cases, it can be argued Biden was looking for a headline.
     
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    So when previous president stopped shipments, were they to looking for a headline. If Yes, why do you care now?
     
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    So how many shipments are being stopped. Why did the lame stream media leave out the important facts, and why do people keep falling for their tactics?

    Righties said it was perfectly fine to use the executive office to go after your main opponent when Trump sought dirt on Biden and his family. No right to start complaining now.
     
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    Former Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, famously said in 2014 that Joe Biden hadn't made one single good foreign policy decision in his entire political career. Sec. Gates wrote that ten years ago -- before Biden's obvious ****-ups in Afghanistan, Ukraine, and now in the Middle East.

    Here's Israel, right on the cusp of delivering the final 'death blow' to Hamas terrorists fortified in the Rafah portion of Gaza, and what does Biden do? He cuts off the delivery of ammunition to Israel at possibly the worst time!

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    Yes that was the big issue no quo was ever shown.
     

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