Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...(Mod Warning)

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    Too funny!
    Stormy just mentioned when younger what it took to become a "Playboy Bunny:..
    Helloooooooooooo Karen McDougal.
     
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    2 min ago
    Trump appears to be watching Daniels on camera feed in front of him


    Trump is staring straight ahead as Stormy Daniels testifies about meeting him at a golf tournament.

    He appears to be watching her on the camera feed in front of him.

    2 min ago
    "It was a very brief encounter": Daniels testifies about meeting Trump at golf tournament in 2006
    Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger is now directing her questioning to July 2006.

    Stormy Daniels said she was working at a celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe. She was still working for an adult film picture company.

    Daniels testified that she met Trump at that tournament. "It was a very brief encounter," she said.

    She cracked a joke about the adult film company's sponsorship of one of the holes of the golf course. The jurors did not laugh.

    Trump has denied the affair with Daniels.



    5 min ago
    Daniels says she wasn't serious about a "draft Stormy" Senate campaign
    Stormy Daniels is now talking about a "draft Stormy" campaign for Senate in Louisiana against former Sen. David Vitter, even though she wasn't serious about running for Senate.

    "David Vitter never actually would debate me," she says.



    5 min ago
    Daniels says she discussed Trump on her podcast
    Stormy Daniels was asked if she discussed Trump on her podcast, specifically regarding politics.

    “Yes, of course,” she says.

    Daniels says she no longer hosts the podcast because she was fired. "I was reluctant to just continue talking about that one narrative, you know, this case," she says.

    7 min ago
    Jury doesn't appear to be reacting to Daniels' laughs and at times blunt testimony
    Stormy Daniels said she also had a podcast called "Beyond the Norm." She said, "it's everything that is beyond the norm," while looking at the jury.

    The jury is not reacting to her laughs and at times blunt testimony.



    8 min ago
    Daniels lists mainstream movies and music videos she has been in
    Stormy Daniels is now listing the mainstream movies she appeared in, including "40 Year Old Virgin" and "Knocked Up."

    She says she has also appeared in music videos, including ones for Maroon 5 and Rob Zombie.
     
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    4 min ago
    Jury shown photo of Daniels and Trump together


    The jury is being shown a photo of Stormy Daniels next to Donald Trump. He's wearing a yellow golf shirt and a red hat.

    Trump is shuffling through papers in front of him as the photo is shown on the screen for jurors.





    5 min ago
    Daniels identifies Trump in courtroom
    Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger asks Stormy Daniels to identify Donald Trump in the courtroom.

    She darts her head around the witness stand and then spots him.

    Daniels points and says he in the "navy blue jacket."

    Trump appeared to look in her direction as she pointed to him but made no visible reaction.



    5 min ago
    "He was as old or older than my father": Daniels says she was 27 when she first met Trump
    Stormy Daniels said all she knew about Trump is that he was a golfer and had a reality show "that I had never seen" called "Celebrity Apprentice."

    She was 27 at the time of their meeting.

    "He was as old or older than my father," Daniels said. She added her father was 60.
    Daniels says that she was introduced to him as a director. "You direct, too, you must be the smart one," she says he told her.

    Daniels says she later saw Trump in the gift room at the tournament. Later at the gift shop she say Trump remembered her. "He remembered me specifically... that I was the smart one," she said putting her hands in air quotes.



    8 min ago
    Trump appears to be watching Daniels on camera feed in front of him
    Trump is staring straight ahead as Stormy Daniels testifies about meeting him at a golf tournament.

    He appears to be watching her on the camera feed in front of him.
     
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    1 min ago
    Daniels is referring to Trump as "Mr. Trump"


    When Stormy Daniels speaks of Trump, she is calling him "Mr. Trump."

    The jury is seeing a photo of Trump standing with his golf club wearing the same yellow shirt and red hat.

    "It is a photo of Mr. Trump on the golf course," Daniels says of the photo.



    1 min ago
    Daniels says she refused Trump's offer to have dinner
    Donald Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, asked Stormy Daniels if she would have dinner with Trump, she testifies.

    "F no, " Daniels says she replied.

    She was then asked to clarify because she said it softly. Daniels says, "NO, but with an expletive in front."


    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-07-24/index.html
     
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    • Her name: Daniels said she prefers being called Stormy Daniels, instead of Stephanie Clifford.
    • How she started her career: While testifying, Daniels was asked how she got into her career. She said her friend told her she was a dancer, which she thought meant “ballet, jazz and tap. I was wrong, she was an exotic dancer.”
    • Daniels said she worked out that through dancing, she could make more than in two nights “than I could shoveling manure eight hours a day.” Daniels continued, noting that she started nude modeling at 21 and then realized she wanted to be a traveling entertainer. She confirmed that she also worked in the adult film industry – saying she won 11 best director awards and two best screenplays.
    • Media and books: Daniels said she’s written a book called “Full Disclosure” which she is in the process of finishing. She speaks about movies and music videos she has been in, including “40 Year Old Virgin” and “Knocked Up” as well as music videos. Daniels reveals she has a podcast – and discussed Trump on it.
    • Meeting Donald Trump: Daniels was questioned about meeting Donald Trump at the Lake Tahoe celebrity golf tournament. “It was a very brief encounter,” she said. At the time, she was 27 years old and still working for an adult film picture company. Trump was “as old or older than my father” she said, adding that her father was 60.
    • Daniels said he later approached her at the golf shop, and said he remembered her, telling her "that I was the smart one."

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-07-24/index.html

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    Nope. The prosecution is methodically piecing together the evidence in order to prove the essential elements of the alleged crime.
    Whether they prove it beyond a reasonable doubt is up to the jury.
     
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    Where is Kieth Schiller?
    Karen McDougal knew him quite well, Keith would pick her up at airport.

    1 min ago
    Trump's bodyguard gave Daniels his contact information, she says


    Daniels says after she declined Trump's dinner invitation, his bodyguard Keith Schiller took her cell phone number and then messaged her.

    The jury is seeing a photo of Schiller's contact entry in her phone. He's saved as "Keith Trump."

    Daniels says the contact was "Keith Trump" because she didn't know Schiller's last name at the time and he worked for Trump. "I do that a lot," to help identify contacts, she says.

    She said she had another dinner, but her publicist encouraged her to go to dinner with Trump.

    "What could possibly go wrong," Daniels recounted her publicist telling her, giggling as she spoke on the stand.
     
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    1 min ago
    Daniels says she brought up her sexual health while talking to Trump


    Stormy Daniels says that while talking to Trump in the hotel, she volunteered that she had not tested positive for STDs.

    Daniels says she chose to work for adult film company Wicked Pictures because it was a "condom-mandatory company."

    "At the time you had to be tested every 30 days," she says. "Even when I worked with my husband, I had to use a condom, even though I’m allergic to condoms, latex."

    5 min ago
    Trump asked Daniels if she had husband or boyfriend, she testifies
    Stormy Daniels says Donald Trump asked her whether she had children, was married or had a boyfriend.

    She says she told him that she did not.



    5 min ago
    Trump asked Daniels to talk "to get to know each other" before dinner, she says
    Stormy Daniels is describing how it was not yet dark outside when she arrived at the hotel for dinner with Trump.

    She says she recalls Trump saying it was a bit early. "Do you mind talking just a bit to get to know each other?" Daniels recalls Trump asking.

    "I told him where I grew up. He asked about my family, do I have brothers and sisters? I don’t," Daniels says.

    "Did you talk to hm at all about the conditions of your childhood," prosecutor Susan Hoffinger asks.

    "Absolutely," Daniels says.

    7 min ago
    Trump watches Daniels' testimony on screen in front of him
    Donald Trump is engaged with the testimony, watching Stormy Daniels on the screen in front of him.
     
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    5m ago / 11:12 AM EDT
    Daniels speaking directly to jurors
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    Daniels is addressing the jury directly, describing the hotel room using terms like "we are used to" meaning her and the jury.

    She has motioned several times to the jury like she's having a conversation with them.

    8m ago / 11:08 AM EDT
    Stormy Daniels said Trump was wearing silk or satin pajamas when she entered his hotel suite
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    Daniels said when she first entered Trump's hotel suite, she said, 'Hello."

    Daniels said he was wearing silk or satin pajamas and she made fun of him.

    "Does Hugh Hefner know you stole his pajamas?" Daniels recalled asking Trump.

    She said she told him to go change, and he obliged "very politely."

    10m ago / 11:07 AM EDT
    Daniels describes room at the penthouse where she met up with Trump
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    Asked by prosecutor Hoffinger to describe the first room she saw upon entering the penthouse, Daniels recalled that it “wasn’t really a room, it was more like a foyer” that had black and white tile floors as well as a big, "beautiful" mahogany table with flowers.

    Daniels then described the hotel suite where she encountered Trump.

    “People often think that the kind of hotels that we are used to being in, a bed and a dresser — this hotel room was three times the size of my apartment,” she said, adding that there was heavy, beautiful furniture in the room.

    11m ago / 11:06 AM EDT
    Daniels describes going to Trump's penthouse room
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    Daniels testified in detail about her first intimate encounter with Trump, saying she thought she was going to dinner with him a restaurant before he came onto her in his hotel room.

    Following directions she said she received from Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, Daniels said she arrived at his hotel and took the elevator to the top floor, where she met Schiller, who was outside the door to Trump's penthouse suite. "It was cracked open and Keith was standing there, and he said 'nice to meet you' and so I walked in," she said.

    11m ago / 11:05 AM EDT
    Jury looks at Daniels as she recounts arriving at Trump's hotel room
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    Laura Jarrett and Kyla Guilfoil
    The courtroom is filled with loud sounds of furious typing as Daniels begins describing how she arrived at Trump's hotel room in 2006.

    The jury’s gaze is mostly on Daniels.
     
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    ABC:
    Stormy detailing how she spanked Trump on his rear.
    Trump is turning his body further away from Stormy.
     
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    3 min ago
    Daniels says she "really wanted" to ask Trump about pro wrestling


    Stormy Daniels said she "really wanted" to ask Donald Trump about pro wrestling when they met.

    "He was friends with the owner of the company," Vince McMahon, she said.

    She laughed on the stand as she recalled comparing the adult film industry to wrestling like World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE). "It's real but it's not," she said.

    Daniels recalled that Trump at the time was involved with a bet with McMahon, where if he lost he would have had to shave his head.

    "Donald Trump has always been very famous for his do," she says. But he assured her it was all predetermined.

    Trump is slumped in his chair and sitting back facing forward as Daniels testifies.



    3 min ago
    Trump shakes his head as Daniels recalls asking him about his wife
    Stormy Daniels shrugs as she mentions she had a "very brief" conversation with Trump about his wife, Melania.

    She says she asked Trump about Melania and told him she was very beautiful. She recalls Trump saying, "We don’t sleep in the same room."

    Trump closed his eyes, shook his head and murmured to his attorneys at the defense table as she said this.
     
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    The biggest conflict is one of his two brain cells communicating with other one.
    Ok, is Trump that stupid, or does he think other people are and is begging for attention/sympathy?
    I used to think it was the latter, but the more I read and hear from him, I'm starting to be convinced that Trump is off his rocker and living in a self contained world where the only truth is his truth and he doesn't actually realize reality. The dude doesn't even know where he is psychologically.
     
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    Lawyers/reporter can't believe it's already gotten this bad for Trump and the "sex act" is yet to be.

    4m ago / 11:22 AM EDT
    Daniels compares working in the adult film industry to WWE
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    Daniels recalled Trump commenting that adult film stars are like athletes in response to her detailing the health measures that adult film stars who work for Wicked Pictures are required to comply with.

    Daniels said she had pushed back on Trump’s comparison, saying that working as a performer in the adult film industry is more like fake wrestling, such as WWE.

    Trump then explained that he was friends with WWE co-founder Vince McMahon and that he had participated in a wrestling plot in which if he had lost, McMahon would have gotten to shave his head.

    Trump told her all of it was “pre-determined,” agreeing with her that he would not have looked good bald.

    5m ago / 11:21 AM EDT
    Stormy Daniels describes spanking Trump with a magazine
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    Daniel said that Trump pulled out a magazine and she said that at that point, she wanted to eat her dinner and asked him if he was always this rude and said he didn't know how to have a conversation.

    “I pretty much had enough of his arrogance and cutting me off and still not getting my dinner," Daniels said.

    "Someone should spank you with that," Daniels recalled saying to Trump about the magazine.

    Daniels said that Trump rolled up the magazine and "gave me a look" as kind of a dare.

    “So I took it from him and I said turn around, and I swatted him” right on the butt, she testified. "And he was much more polite."

    8m ago / 11:19 AM EDT
    Stormy Daniels said she sat at dining table with Trump in hotel suite, and he asked about her adult films
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    Stormy Daniels said that after Trump changed out of pajamas, they went to sit down at the dining table inside the hotel suite just to talk. She said it wasn't dark outside yet. and he wanted to talk first before they went downstairs for dinner.

    "So I took a seat and we started talking," Daniels said.

    Asked what they discussed, she said that he asked questions in an effort to get to know her like where she was from, where she grew up. "General get-to-know you sort of things," she said.

    Daniels said Trump was very interested in how she went from being a porn star to writing and directing, and she said she told him they have real scripts. She said she explained the different types of adult films from $5,000 to $200,000.

    "Yes, some adult films have real scripts and are real movies," Daniels said.

    Daniels said Trump asked her if she got residuals, how she was paid, about health insurance, about STDs and whether they had a doctor on staff. She said Trump asked if she was worried about catching something.

    Asked if Trump asked if she was ever tested, Daniels said he did and she volunteered that information. She said she told him that they get tested all the time, and he asked if she ever tested positive for something. She said she told him she could show him her entire record.

    “I’ve never had a bad test. I’ve never tested positive for anything," Daniels testified.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...sh-money-trial-day-13-live-updates-rcna150793
     
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    I suggest Trump deniers start reading or watching Johnathon Turley and the multitude of federal and state former prosecutors. It is a kangaroo court. Which BTW is language I understand the Bar prevents them from using because it casts aspersions on the fairness of kangaroo courts.
     
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    I think there is a good reason Trump, after hearing from some of these witnesses, has switched his story from claiming that the trial is going too fast to saying it is too slow. His blind followers will, of course, fall for both.
     
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    2 min ago
    Analysis: Daniels alludes to an intimidating power dynamic with Trump

    From CNN's Maureen Chowdhury

    Stormy Daniels in her testimony alluded to how Donald Trump's status compared to hers created an intimidating power dynamic, CNN Chief Legal Correspondent Paula Reid said.

    Daniels explained how the hotel room was bigger than her past three houses.

    "She also testified that she came from poor background, which added to the asymmetrical power dynamic between the two," Reid noted.




    7 min ago
    Court takes short break
    The jury has been excused and the court is taking its morning break.

    Stormy Daniels walked past Trump's table without looking over. He also didn't appear to look at her. Trump was talking with with attorney Emil Bove.





    8 min ago
    Daniels says she didn't sense any red flags while talking to Trump
    Stormy Daniels says she and Trump talked for about two hours.

    "Did you sense any red flags or concerns about being there?" prosecutor Susan Hoffinger asks.

    "No," Daniels says.
     
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    I'm sure you find the whining quite convincing. If you have an actual point to make, feel free to make it. Until then, all you are telling us is that you like the whining and you want us to go find it.
     
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    15m ago / 11:22 AM EDT
    Jurors struggle to maintain a poker face when Daniels describes smacking Trump on the butt
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    Upon describing when she had smacked Trump on the butt, some jurors could no longer keep a poker face. One woman was seen rubbing her face while trying to hold back laughter (without making noise).
     
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    Didn't she say she smacked him on the but with a rolled-up magazine that had his face on the cover? Honestly, as much as I can't stand the guy and can't stand cheating, that part was actually a bit charming.
     
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    I've said it before.
    Stormy could have gotten a hell of a lot more from Trump then the $130,000.


    Karen Mc Dougal can testify to what a loving man Trump was throughout their 10 month affair.
    Like humanizing him. LOL
     
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    ABC
    Dainiels giving detailed description of unmade bed,bedroom.
    She did look inside a case and there was an "Old Spice"something and a gold manicure set.
     

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