End Affirmative Action

Did you read the post?

 

Can we get a link to where you got this information, I thought that was suppose to be one of the rules on this forum. When you post information from someone else or someone elses website we are suppose to see the author or a link to the info.

 

Since you asked for it again...

This professor constructed this chart in his blog...http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/01/medical-school-acceptance-rates-2008.html

From this data, which is from Association of American Medical colleges...https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/app...mcat-gpa-grid-by-selected-race-ethnicity.html

 

lol how if the scores are equal?

 

Don't you understand the scores can't be equal if someone black go into of UofM and he didn't.

 

I mean I don't have a problem voicing your frustrations over AA, but don't make it seem as if they give scholarships and jobs to bums off of the street.

 

Good lord. Read the OP. I do a few comparisons. One of them showcasing how much less qualified blacks and hispanics have a higher percentage of gaining admittance than average whites/asians.

I do another comparison which showcases the percentage of admittance with respect to race and identical MCAT score/GPA.

What do you not understand?

Stop playing these little games and address the problem at hand.

 

A .2 GPA average is "much less"? Good lord is right. Again, I agree with you for the most part, but you're argument that the "unqualified blacks and Mexicans" are getting the jobs over the poor whites and Asians doesn't check up. Show me a graph where a black that didn't finish high school got into Med School over qualified people, then we could be outraged together.

 

The point being, there shouldn't be much of a difference in the percentages, if any at all. There are huge blatant discrepancies which can only explain one thing... merit doesn't matter as much as skin color.

If 35.9% of whites gain admission with a 28 MCAT and 3.5 GPA...

35.9% of blacks should also be gaining admission with those same scores, not 84.8%

35.9% of hispanics should be gaining admissions with those scores, not 69.1%

35.9% of asians should be gaining admissions with those scores, not 29.3%

Those percentages are so blatantly discriminatory it's not even debatable.

 

So whites should set the standard? Whatever the % of whites get accepted should be the % of everybody that gets accepted? I've never been to Med school, but I'm sure they look at more than GPA and MCAT to determine who they let in. Maybe blacks interview better, who knows.

 

Yes that is quite a difference. Why is a higher percentage of black/hispanics with worse credentials being taken over more qualified whites/asians?

Do you not understand medical school acceptance? .2 in highly competitive admissions process is a BIG deal.

 

Obviously whites don't have to be the standard. All I'm saying is the percentages should be very close in each column and there shouldn't be blatant differences.

 

Old proverb, you don't fix one injustice by creating a new one...​

 

Fair enough, but don't insult the people that get accepted and call them "unqualified" when that couldn't be any further from the truth. Thats all I'm saying..

 

Question; AA has been going on since the 1970's, how much longer should non-minorities be subjected to racism. Just asking!

 

To make it even worse it has been going on since 1965...

I would say 46 years is enough. That's about 2 generations.

 

Whereas they should be concentrating on a quality equal education from kindergarten on for all, they would rather punish whites to breed race agitation.

 

Moderators of the political forum. Can this individual not be shown the door at this point? I think most would agree this sort of thing has gone on for way too long as it is.... This is supposed to be a place where adults (or at least adult minded people) can discuss various political points of view in a respectful manner. Obviously this sort of content intends not to do anything worthwhile. Thanks...

 

Interesting... so being white (but not a republican), I should not be offended by that statement (because you basically just called me a racist). Yet if I implyed that your race had something to do with you basic lack of proper grammer or punctuation in your posting, then that would be considered a horribly racist thing to say. I believe your logic is flawed....

 

Well said sir!!! The one thing I have wondered about for a long time, is why minorities are not offended when they learn of things like this. I would think everyone would want to be judged on the merit of their skills and abilities, and NOT the color of their skin. To be denied something merely for the color of your skin is equally as evil as being given something merely for the color of your skin. Just the way I see it anyway....

 

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It is true that URM applicants are able to get into medical school with lower grades. However, it is also true that more whites and asians get in with lower stats than all the URMs that get in. Then you also have to take into account the fact that URM applicants are more likely to apply to medical schools with a mission of producing physicians that wish to serve in needed areas, rural inner city.

No one is getting into a top research medical school with GPA of less than 3.5 or an MCAT of less than 30.

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This is a coppy of the Medical School Admission Requirements or MSAR. It is a couple of years old but the requires are effectivly static.

 

From your second source it clearly shows that the fear of the "underqualified blackys taking our jobs") is completely irrational. Although they have a better chance of getting in at certain GPA level many many less apply and are accepted compared to white. Also overall black people have a lower acceptance rate into medical school

 

QUOTE=Kimaris
No one is getting into a top research medical school with GPA of less than 3.5 or an MCAT of less than 30.

But what breaks did they get in obtaining that 3.5 due to race or even getting into college to begin with? Don't you think the solution should be a quality early education as opposed to handouts and reverse discrimination?

 

Because one's gpa and mcat score exist only as A factor in medical school admissions. Most schools have a GPA and MCAT score cut off and when you pass it they will consider you, your research, your personal statement, your clinical experience, letters of recommendation and etc.

Don't talk about the process if don't know anything about it.

 

I don't understand your question. There is no grading affirmative action. If you fail organic chemistry, you fail it.