Obama floats mileage tax plan

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/159397-obama-floats-plan-to-tax-cars-by-the-mile

Great idea Mr. President! Kick us while we're down!

I'm not even going to get into how many campaign promises he'd be breaking by doing this. The federal government already makes 18.4 cents/gallon in taxes on gasoline sales. The further devaluation of the dollar from wasteful government spending will continue to push the paper price of gas upwards. The last thing we need, Mr. Obama ("dude" according to Jon Stewart), is more taxes on fuel consumption through a mileage tax. There is much more to this than increasing federal revenue (which is technically unnecessary under our fiat currency system).

Such a taxing system would require monitoring of your vehicle and driving habits by the IRS. This would be very easy to implement, however, since most new cars are being equipped with GPS. It's not a far cry to believe that in the near future the federal government will require all new cars to contain GPS and, under the Patriot Act, have access to your GPS information without a warrant (why not, it's to fight the TERRORISTS of course). Those who illegally uninstalled the GPS from their cars would go to jail for tax evasion.

It's that Medieval mindset that government must impose "superior" morality on its "morally inferior" subjects. This is done in the modern age, not so much through laws as it is through the taxing code. The Obama administration believes that American fuel consumption is too high because of the alleged impacts on the environment (CO2 emissions, reduction of natural resources, etc.) It is "immoral" to continue to deplete our natural resources, so we must be taxed to stop it. However, as with all socialist states, these type of moral regulations only apply to the subjects, not to the elite, because the elite do not actually believe in the moral code which they are imposing. It is simply about control. I would not expect such a tax to apply to Obama as he flies around burning thousands of gallons of jet fuel to go play golf in Hawaii. I suspect he, along with many other powerful "environmentalists", do not actually believe that A.G.W. is a threat.

Since the federal government is a much bigger polluter than any private entity, a real solution to supposed A.G.W. would be to be to slash the federal government down to about 5% or less of its current size. You think that's going to happen? No, because protecting the environment is not the agenda. Controlling YOU is.

 

You guys are acting like this is an actual proposal and has a chance of becoming law. It was a DRAFT, that doesn't mean the administration is going to support it.

 

The administration didn't support the bill. No chance of it getting through this Congress. Obama definitely supports the idea of a mileage tax, that's the whole point.

 

Where does it say that Obama himself supports the idea of a mileage tax? Even better, where's the statement from Obama himself saying "I support a mileage tax" ?

 

You have a reading comprehension problem?

This is change you voted for.

 

No, but you clearly do.

Again, its a draft. That's why they said they're FLOATING the idea. That doesn't mean anything. It just means someone in the administration brought the idea up. It doesn't mean that Obama himself supports it, or that it has any chance of ever winding up in a proposal.

 

That's the concept behind floating a bill. The administration does it so they can guage public reaction to it. Obviously negative in this case, so why would Obama ever come out and show public support for it? It's clear he supports the idea but he won't go through with it if he believes it will be a politically unpopular decision.

 

Yes, and if the reaction is negative it disappears off the face of the earth.

Even if there's a favorable reaction to it, that doesn't mean that the president will back it, or supports it personally. So again, this entire thread is full of misinformation from a right-wing blog. Surprise, surprise.

 

Why would the Obama administration ever float a mileage tax bill if he didn't support the concept of a mileage tax? Lol. It's right in line with his political standings anyway. Do you honestly believe deep down in your heart that Obama opposes a mileage tax?

It's not from a blog. Now you're just making stuff up.

 

Obama supported (and wanted) single payer health care. His administration didn't. Guess which one went through because of the political realities of the time?

Hell, just read this;

http://thehill.com/blogs/transporta...5-white-house-disowns-plan-to-tax-car-mileage

It says "The Hill's Floor Action Blog" in the header. Its a blog.

 

Yeah right pal, just like he didn't support a nationalized helathcare boondoggle that will cripple our already dying economy, and that the overwhelming majority of Americans didn't want in the first place. Open your eyes!

 

You're just proving my point. Obama wanted a single payer healthcare system but never went through with it becuase it would be politically unpopular, just as the same with a mileage tax.

Yes. That would be a very standard response I would expect from the White House after sinking a bill they floated.

Oh, I thought you were talking about my commentary. But really, my commentary doesn't represent anything in the blog. The only thing I referenced in the blog was the fact that the administration floated the bill, which is absolutely correct.

Dude, are you kidding me? You actually think that Obama opposes the idea of a mileage tax?

 

Dupe thread. See http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/184997-obama-floats-plan-tax-cars-mile.html (67 posts)

Conspiracy Theory forum is a few floors down....

Howling is only permitted during a full moon. Please consult your lunar calendar and repost during high tide
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It does mean this is the sort of crowd he has surrounded himself with. Its not a good sign.

 

LOL ok dude. The IRS's job is to enforce federal tax laws. You don't think they would have the power to enforce a federal mileage tax? You think that makes me a nutjob conspiracy theorist? Are you serious?

 

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

 

So do you concede that it is the IRS's job to enforce federal tax laws? How would a mileage tax, if implemented, be enforced? How could the federal government prove how many miles you drove?

 

Mileage (gas) tax raises more revenue if the fuel economy is less...

Debunked: High-Mileage Vehicles Not Blocked from US Market
May 1, 2012 : In doing some due diligence on a YouTube video that alleges that the US government prevents certain high-mileage vehicles from being sold in the US, I discovered that the differences in same-model-name mileage ratings have to do with a) vehicle size; b) difference in cycle calculations, c) difference in gallon size.

 

They wrote the "idea" and are "floating" it. If obama didnt support this he wouldve squashed it before seeing the light of day. There is no denying it. Now, its time for you to come up with a way to say how good this bill is so you arent in opposition to the rulers of your thoughts.

 

You didn't get an answer to your question, did you?

 

It's already being done in England.

 

Such a tax is consistent with the Obama and Democrat world view. That's why this rings true.

 

What happened is that libs followed their heart by forcing automakers to build smaller cars that get higher gas mileage.

But libs forgot about what that does to to gasoline tax that they collect on every gallon of gas the public buys.

So now Obama and the big government libs have created a cash shortage and want raise taxes to compensate.

 

This plan is over a year old but it does tell us what will drop on us like a hammer from hell if we reelect this communist punk.

He told us before the last election that fuel prices would necessarily skyrocket if he was elected so we will only have the stupidest of our government dependent citizens to blame if he wins a second term.

 

So, the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION drafts proposals OBAMA doesn't support and floats them without his approval?