I have found myself struggling with how my fellow norwegian massacred people of our country. How can we not see our citizens struggle with thoughts like he had. I really want to work for world peace. I am thinking that if fear can make people hateful, only love can make us achieve peace. We can only find the world peace with love for the human beings existing in the world. Every human has to be respected. Every group has to be respected. Wars will evolve the problems into bigger problems. We can only meet hate with love. There is no other way. If there is people out there thinking the same. Do what you can to achieve it. Some things politicians can do: - Work towards achieveing mental care for everyone in the world. - Work on better solutions in psychiatry. - The only religion is how to achieve love to people in the world. No need for scaring people to silence. This will only make them fear more, and destroy more people in the world. - Politics is about sharing thoughts. Every man has something to say. Every human group has something to say. We need to achieve democracy for all world's citizens. Mental care can contribute to make all this happen. If we fear nothing we will not hate. If we love ourselves and people around us. We will make no wars, no criminals, no victims. Contribute to the poor of the world by making them feel the goodness. Let not war decide our happiness. We need more ideas to make this happen. We need more people who will work for it. IF you can save one person from inmoral. You can save the world.
Welcome. The openness of Norwegian society has been brought to the attention of the world by the madman, Breivic, and it is very much admired by intelligent people. The Norwegian message is very clear, thank you, and those that emulate it will be contributing to the advancement of civilization.
Noble but naive. You live in an idealistic world. I suggest you spend a few months in a third world country and learn to understand and appreciate the reality of humanity.
If the people that can pay for it can't do it, how can the 3rd world countries do it. I am sure there is people who don't feel hate out there, better chance there is people from 3rd world countries thinking like this. Yes maybe world leaders need a psychiatrytest.
Thank you. I hope we all can learn from this tragedy. Sometimes we need to sit down and talk about it.
For world peace to be achieved, certain things have to stop being forced upon people. This whole idea of multiculturalism is dangerous. People want to live among their own kind. People of different cultures should stay out of each others' nations and out of their business. This means the end of mass immigration, the end of wars on behalf of Israel, the end of having a giant military presence throughout the world.
Multiculturalism has existed throughout history.. Without it there have been no new technology introduced and we would have family trees that never branched. Without gllobal business exchange, the US would stagnate......
I think a lot of the rhetoric against multiculturalism is rather strange. Most modern cultures are the result of cultural mixing. There aren't many modern societies that can say they are indigenous to the areas they live in. Very few purely indigenous Americans still exist (North and South), and a lot of the cultures of Europe and Asia have long histories of mixing with other cultures. It seems like a more logical conclusion is that culture is a spectrum. There is nothing wrong with cultures mixing, but the more different 2 cultures are from each other, the more conflicts arise. This is why immigration within the EU leads to less conflicts than immigration from outside of it, for example. Obviously, British culture has a lot more in common with French culture than with most Islamic cultures. So, "multiculturalism" isn't really the problem. The problem is more specifically that radically different cultures living near each other can lead to conflicts.
I can't help but wonder if many people even understand the difference between pluralism and "multiculturalism" (a fancy euphemism for Tribalism), and if they do, why they would opt for the latter when it invariably leads to social fragmentation and conflict. George Orwell once observed that "if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought", and I think that's the case with "multiculturalism". When people deal in euphemisms, one can expect that confusion and mistakes will ensue...
Or not. The United States, albeit imperfectly, has managed to assimilate radically different cultures for quite some time because people are willing to melt into a common pluralistic pot. Multiculturalism/Tribalism doesn't encourage that process, hence the social fragmentation and conflict...
Not to sound pessimistic but the day world peace happens is the day humanity commits itself to death. The threat must always be there. We are not alone in this universe. And that's all I've got to say about that.
It is not about hate or love. It is about being genuine, and about the only genuine emotion in society anymore, is generational indifference, and indifference makes love and hate impotent, except to the radicals who don't suffer to it.
You are way off the mark there. That people enjoy other cultures is demonstrable in many ways and many people choose to live permanently with them.
You'd have to show some really authoritative support for this conjecture in order to quieten down the laughter.
The declarations on the parts of several of Europe's leaders that "multiculturalism has failed" would be one place to start. Far from "failing", multiculturalism/tribalism has succeeded in producing the outcomes one would expect from that policy.
Anwar al Awlaki, the greatest terrorist threat to the American people in the whole world, is the product of American multiculturalism. Any questions?
Welcome Avuna. I wish to express my condolances to the people of Norway. I wish everyone were as reasonable as you are and no doubt we would have world peace. Unfortunately not everone is. I'm not sure better psychaitry would have helped here. The killer, Anders Breivik, didn't do much prior to the mass murder to attract attention. A lot of posters on this site still blame Muslims for this act of terror despite the fact that it was committed by someone who hates them.
Yes, the New Klan is in pursuit of muslims. Even white christian extremist muslims better watch out !
That's why i'm presenting this. If every man and woman had a united respect for eachother from beginning of life, we would have noone telling another that their thoughts is wrong. If people think the same on a base that's crossdimensional, if this is doable at all, we can make it happen. If noone says "this is me and i won't change", our debates could be more of what we actually needed out of life, rather than being a culturedebate. The ethics of life is bigger than any culture, any religion, if the church and societies was open to everyone in the world, with no problems with anyone's culture, and no judgement. There would be no need for differences within cultures and religions. This is why psychiatry could be reversed to be a ethical process along with values of life that we can relate to in the whole world. We could have one bible and this would be counting for all. If we stopped mentioning the past, but focus on the future. We don't have time to be judgmental, just find the peace in our hearts. Anything else is waste of time. No human is indifferent at the start of their life, culture has changed us to be different. Maybe it's time to revision anyone's cultures and find a base where we can find life where noone thinks of culture as something that is their life. I was basing this on mazlow's pyramide. My vision is kinda based on my own life, cause without love(which I cannot feel is given to me, cause of my empathy, and the fact that I lost a lot of it during childhood, and I do need a lot of it with my personality and sicknesses). I cannot feel the rest of the basic life for people around me. The only thing I base my life on is love and basic needs. If i can think like this, why shouldn't anyone else think like this with the base of the world's need in their heads. This has really been about me being narssissist and asperger, I can't really find love myself, but the childhood's vision is what is giving me the empathy to find what I need the most, thus this must be what the world needs most of all to find the truth in our lives. Thinking like this I am changing every day for better and for worse. I feel that thinking that love can change the world is what is most intelligent and best for the world's future. I have a hope for everyone in the world to find a united world, and find themselves a place for only them in it. Saying this, I feel that people has to try group themselves to think differently, but I can't say I don't want the whole world's leadership to take on the challenge it is to unite us all. If we can change one person, this can lead to a lot of changes. If we can change society we need to base it on a leadership which is valid. Thus this has to go through to the world through open arms of someone who can take on the challenge, in meanwhile we just need to fight our own battles and do what we can to make other's perceptions thinking through what we need in this world. This can be done in several ways, psychiatry, politics, anywhere where there is people there is love handed out to people who need it, we just need more of it.
Not at the cost of diluting the host culture. I think you are talking about tolerance, not PC hand-wringing because a Christmas carol might offend a Muslim or Hindu. _
