More Wars in Africa!!! Thanks Obama!!!

Now why would that jackass do that. For one thing he keeps forgeting about it even when its brought up to him. The only time he thinks about the southwest is during campaign season.

 

Whys that? You waiting for a drug deal to go through? You sure sound like it with your posts.

 

Sure hope the wall didn't hurt your nose.

 

Thank you for beating me to the punch on this very accurate observation about how we got involved in the Vietnam catastrophe. It started out with just a handful of "advisors"... a few years later President Johnson sent 50,000 American soldiers to Da Nang in spring of 1965... and by the time we finally got out of that horrible quagmire, we had suffered 60,000 killed, and over 150,000 wounded (they still fill VA hospitals, homeless shelters, detox centers, etc.).

For a variety of reasons too numerous to go into here, Africa would be far worse than Vietnam, and make the whole Iraq/Afghanistan adventure invisibly insignificant by comparison. How many more reasons do we need to get rid of Obama next year?

 

I would like to think there is more but Obama has not demonstrated any sort of skill in foreign affairs. I would probably support the adventure if I though it would be competently carried out, but I have no reason to expect that.

 

....well Im betting if you were one of the 100.....you wouldnt be laughing.


How many troops would it take to cause outrage from the Anti-War Left?
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That's how Vietnam started.

 

Here's a better question. Why are you suddenly on an anti-war kick? Did you speak out against the Iraq War or the Afghanistan one?

I'm not a fan of "humanitarian crusades" either, but hell, at least we can say this conflict isn't as much about war profiteering as the Iraq War was.

Either way, this small operation is nowhere comparable to the Iraq and Afghanistan occupations.

We should be so lucky to keep our interventionism in the future down to this level. Libya and now this conflict are much cheaper than Iraq and Afghanistan. If we can just get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan, we'll save billions.

 

I think we have learned from our mistakes.

You and other libs have regressed to the point of forgetting what you once knew.

 

I can only speak for myself, but what I know about our foreign policy is that it's standard protocol to provide small assistance forces to conflicts.

We did something similar with Libya.

Iraq and Afghanistan were full-fledged wars. They aren't comparable to this.

I'm mostly a non-interventionist, but again, if we limited our interventions to small operations like this, I'd be ok with that.

It's incredibly disingenuous for people to criticize involvement in this conflict if they previously supported a full scale invasion of Iraq.

 

That's exactly the type of meddling Al Queda attacked us for.

 

And if a liberal even begins to suggest that, he gets shouted down.

Hell, even Ron Paul got that treatment at the debates.

While I agree with your sentiment (which is part of why I'm non-interventionist), I do wish you'd spread the word to your conservative colleagues.

They only seem to protest intervention when a Democrat heads it. Granted, I realize that liberals are similarly selective in their outrage as well.

 

You're OK with being just a little bit pregnant.

But at what point in the pregnancy will anti-war libs pull the plug and abort?

At conception when Obama sends in 100 Americans?

Clearly not as long as Der Furher is a Democrat.

Or the first trimester as long as the number remains below what?

A thousand?

Ten thousand?

Suppose the baby is born early and American bodies unexpectedly start coming home from Africa like they did in Somalia?

It's sort of too late then to stock up on condoms isn't it?

The fact is that Obama has already committed the US to war without consulting the people.

And now the onus is on the American people to somehow put a stop to it if they can.

 

I hope you take the same tact when a Republican enters the presidency.

 

Nevermind the next Republican.

Don't expect me to write this episode off so easily.

That a**hole in the White House is just beginning to feel the blowback from this.

 

Even one death of an American Soldier is too much. The war in Iraq after the first 4 weeks was a mistake just as the Afghanistan mess is. Sending troops in an advisory status to Africa while a great humanitarian effort will not be viewed as such by the global community as a whole.

America lost its global credibility years ago as a force for good and I honestly think this is a mistake. I can see this spinning around and biting us on the ass much like Vietnam did.

 

Russian support for North Vietnam ( And money spent on Cuba & Middle East & Africa)hastened the decline of the Soviet Union.

 

Exactly. Think Somalia and Mogadishu in '93.

It always starts with "invitations" and "humanitarian" reasonings..... inevitably there is mission creep and the results over the years has been consistently bad for our Marines and soldiers as well as our reputation.

 

We have done hundreds of adviser missions over the decades. A handful of them have expanded into a larger commitment. There is nothing "inevitable" about it.

 

Oh great. Barrack Obama is going to turn our soldiers into baby-killers now. Then watch the lefties cry foul and demonize all of our troops like they normally do.

 

The record is pretty clear historically. Our record of military involvement in Africa in particular is dismal..... usually causing much more harm than good. We have spent billions. I am a fan however of UAV / Predator diplomacy.

 

I can't say much about the situation because I simply don't know enough. I've been a bit out of the loop lately. But why the heck are we even in Africa? We shouldn't be there purely for humanitarian reasons- I may be overly cynical, but I know that there has to be SOME other reason, like money, power/influence, resources...SOMETHING.

Democrat or Republican, this is annoying. We have our own problems. We have our own country. We need to stay in our own country, and deal with our own problems.

 

"a complete breakdown of law and order is just around the corner" in Burundi...

UN Concerned About Reports of Gang-Rapes, Mass Graves in Burundi
Friday 15th January, 2016 - The United Nations human rights chief has spoken out against increasing violence in Burundi, where he warns "a complete breakdown of law and order is just around the corner."