What Is Your Opinion On The Occupy Wallstreet Protests And Would You Join Us?

I think you are a bunch of nutcases with unrealistic demands. You have some good points, but your demands are inane.

 

QUOTE (Originally by Despondent): " I ridicule these (OWS) fools because I've been there, lower than most of these whiny brats and hippies . . . "

This reference to, "fools, whiny brats and hippies" reminds me of the antiwar movement during the Viet Nam war. History and retrospection tell us the war was an ill-advised and pointless undertaking. But at that time, there was substantial public support for the war as well as the military draft which forced tens of thousands of Americans into military service. About fifty thousand were killed in Viet Nam. They died in vain.

I recall a radio talk show at the height of the war. The subject was antiwar protesters at UC Berkeley. The news media characterized the student demonstrations as a "riot". The actual event fell somewhat short of a "riot". Nevertheless, the demonstrations caught the interest of the general public. I recall a lady who called in and said, "all that intelligence and all that education; I don't understand why they do this".

 

Occupy the World isn't a political movement.

 

If it were for the ability to form corporations what kind of society do you think we would have? Think you would be using a personal computer? Have cable TV? Drive a nice car? Have an abundance of readily available food? Power for your home?

 

Easy, Thatcher.

 

I was an anti-Viet Nam war protestor. Public sentiment about the war was very pro going in. We did have a strategic interest in not allowing the Communist backed by the ChiComs to take over the entire region of SE Asia with it's expansionary repressive politics and brutal governance. It was the conduct of the war that turned the public against it. I never bought into the "the Communist are our friends and WE are the real oppressor" nonsense. Of course we Southern "Hippies" ran Jerry Rubin off campus after he started talking his socialist BS.

 

that is an awful analogy the people who we demand to pay for our bills have to forego a private jet or yacht not their tv

 

I thought the republican mantra of America being so great was because of "individuals". Contrary to the legal definition (and Mitt Romney), corporations aren't individuals. They're packs of wolves crushing and killing by sheer volume.

I don't know what kind of society we'd have without the corporations TODAY, but I'm certainly willing to give it a try at this point. Whatever they once might have been, they aren't the same today. They're the death of the country as we know it.

 

Says the guy mommy and daddy gave everything to.

We never had a basement.

 

That's funny, my dad was a union machinist, my mother was a stay at home mom until I was 16. The only way I could pay for college was with the GI Bill, so it was off to boot camp for me at 18. What they gave me was a good work ethic, moral support, and a love of reading (our house was always full of books).

On another note, if homelessness is the great struggle, these whiny brats and hippies have nothing to complain about, they are choosing to live like animals in the streets, but they will all go home when it gets cold. So you should actually dislike them more than me...

 

Why? I disagree with your assertion that the only folks you're demanding money from own private jets and yachts. But if you demand anyone who has luxuries you don't possess must become responsible for your bills... well I don't see why it isn't analogous to folks who don't have the luxuries you possess demanding the same of you.

 

You're right. Homelessness is simply a poor career choice. You had the OPPORTUNITY to take advantage of. Many do not have that choice available.

Like I said before, you've never lived on the streets, and you've had it easy. Glad you think it was all you. Whatever floats your boat there. Just pee on the "animals" next time you see one, and know that you're so much above those dirtbags. Maybe you can kick them too...it'll probably make you feel good.

 

Sure we applaud individual initiative, it's what made Apple corp and Microsoft.

That's exactly what they are without the assembled people there would be no corporation.

So you don't want your new tech device or the wonder drugs that could save your life or a car you can afford and gas to put in it and fresh safe food on your table.

How do you even imagine you would have the same standard of living you have now were it not for the corporate system where citizens can join some of their individual assets with other citizens same to create commerce and jobs and wealth? What is your alternative?

And tell me how do you save for retirement, where to you invest your retirement funds?

 

The homelessness is the result of the choices made. Big difference.

Why not? Who doesn't? It starts with the free education that is offered to everyone. The it continues with choices made like engage in crime or get a job and work hard. Not doing do drugs or drink in excess. Don't have a baby out of wedlock and make sure you are married and financially ready to have a child. Don't spend more than you make and save before you spend.

You make the right choices on just those few items and you are almost guarantied you will live a good standard of living you most certainly will not be poor.

 

So if they are obliged to pay your bills how are you obliged to them in return?

 

I have no issue with the OWS crowd protesting at all so long as they remain non violent and do not destroy public property.

Keeping in mind that I seem to be in the minority for supporting the right to free speech lately.

 

I don't think anyone has a problem with OWS' right to free speech. Instead, people are critical of the ideology of the "Occupy" movement.

 

Corporations USE people, they ARE NOT people. Corporations are legally not responsible for the damage they cause to society. Corporations are like a mob with greedy mob bosses. No sir...corporations are NOT people. They are the cancer that has killed society.

 

Exactly. I don't see anyone calling them racist either... even though many racist comments have been made by the protestors.

 

People in Melbourne are protesting. The whole thing has really taken off over here. Now the Lord Mayor wants to stop people from protesting because the stupid Queen is going to be visiting Federation Square in a few days.

I support them, and I would join them if I didn't have to work. Like them, I would be the 99%. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. A small minority have all the power and the 99% have nothing.

Good for the protesters. I support them 100%.

 

I tend to agree with you. And I think that corporations are mostly like machines... uncontrolled and unregulated, they can destroy MANY lives.

 

In before someone is murdered at one of these protests. You guys really rounded up the scum of the earth. How many rapes have there been so far?

 

Everyone has the opportunity, people who end up on the streets either have mental problems or deserve to be there.

Your 'living in the streets' tripe is old. Cry my a river, its nothing but a consequence of bad choices, I have little sympathy for those that make bad choices, and it takes quite a few bad choices to end up on the streets. Take your sappy sob story somewhere else.

 

Is that right friend? Thank you for further cementing my beliefs. Just when I wonder if I might be wrong, somebody like you comes along and reaffirms my beliefs. It is the mentality you proudly portray that give me a slim amount of hope for the future of the next generation recognizing disconnected and disjointed folks for what they actually are, before they ever consider sympathy. Please keep posting views like this, so I can show my kids one day, what the country was like, or asks me why I see things the way I do. Keep the arrogant attitude and the elitist views alive for the world to use for future reference. Appreciate it Bud. You rock man!

 

Of course it is. Someone loses their job, can't find another one in time to get back on top of the bills, loses their home and ends up homeless but hey, its all their own fault, right?