Wisc Gov Walker to be recalled.

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dang. I thought for sure it was FDR.

    I will not Google, but if I recall it is some big time Left Wing Democrat... whoever it is, they were being surprisingly honest which is no longer a Democratic Party trait. Lies and deceit are all they have anymore.
     
  2. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Your language is certainly not one of bravery, maturity, nor objectivity.

    That being said, your insinuation that "private" is better is clearly a regurgitation of right wing talking points. (I have better things to do with my time.) If you are actually thought through your "privitization" plan, then workers would hav every right to unionize and neither the Gov nor yourself could stop it. Let me save you some suspense, if you truly blanket believe private is better, then it is clear you have little practical experience in life.
     
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    It seems like the rats have jumped the ship here! Helloooo.....where are our loving Democrat pals?

    The ones who want to waste millions of taxpayer dollars - and take our Governor from important Wisconsin business to attempt a recall on wholly illegitimate grounds?

    Does shining the light of truth cause good people to scurry away?

    :LOL:
     
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    For serious? Fox news uses this type of title bating on its articles all the time.
     
  5. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whaaaaaaa... someone else did it too!!!!

    Grow up.

    It does not make it right no matter who forwards the lie.
     
  6. Subdermal

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    Bravery? This is about principled conviction.

    Maturity? It is no less immature than spackling our State Capitol building with your garbage and graffiti. Your pleas will find no purchase here.

    Objectivity? Dâmned right it's not "objective" - and neither are you.

    Um...private? Private what?

    :crazy:

    You're bringing "private" into this conversation. What I was talking about is public employees, and what priviledges they should be granted by their bosses, of which I am one.

    And if you want to stack life experience against me robster, bring it. You don't live in Wisconsin; your experience in this regard pales in comparison to mine.
     
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    Examples or it didn't happen. OP's title is an overt lie.
     
  8. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell that to the public employees of Galveston, TX.

    The public sector was NEVER supposed to be better. Public servants were supposed to receive fair wages and livable retirement... not these ridiculous over bloated with benefits, over paid, over pensioned parasites.

    They have taken too much through the Democratic Party's back room scam "negotiations" and they are bankrupting states, counties, and cities.

    What has happened is legalized corruption through the Democratic Party.
     
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    Part of my avatar pic is from that movie...You can never truly defeat the lowly gopher.:)
     
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  11. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    LOL, principled conviction, right, a Republican Gov targets only the public unions that lean Democrat and leaves the public unions that leans Republican alone.
     
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    Exactly.

    And I really wonder: if these antagonists were correct and justified in attempting to recall Walker, why are they so afraid of answering the question I have asked?

    I know. It has to be bigger. And red.

    WHO SAID IT?

    "IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN WITH THE GOVERNMENT."
     
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    I am not excusing it. I am just pointing out how you and none of the other cons ever get angry when fox does it.
     
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    That is principled conviction. We're anti-Democrat. Of course, there's nothing saying that the Governor will not go after Fire and Police Unions as well, though they seem to have taken far less liberty with their collective bargaining priviledge.

    Are you willing to answer the question, or not?
     
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    Still waiting for examples of Fox doing it. If I see as blatant a heading as the OP offered, of course I would object.

    But you have offered none. Just a promise that they're there. I have to question how up-in-arms we're supposed to be about misleading story headings that even you cannot seem to find?
     
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    what is with the whiney libs and their recalls?

    If you want the guy out of office, let him service his term and then vote him out.

    enough with the cry baby crap.
     
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    so your against all impeachment/recalls??!? Maybe we should have left (R) Nixon alone to!
     
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    When did I say I was against impeachment. If someone broke the law, than they should be impeached.
     
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    The above is not quite true. The bill was not about the state changing its employees benefits, it was about local municipalities being able to renegotiate. The unions have had many rules in place that were just ridiculous. Here is something to read and consider... bolded important part for skippers...
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/06/union-curbs-rescue-wisconsin-school-district

    Under collective bargaining the union got to decide who buys their insurance, so they created their own insurance company and overcharged the people of Wisconsin. This is just disgusting, I wonder for how long this was going on. Public unions should not be able to collectively bargain at all in my mind because the party they bargain with is not dealing with their own money and those unions have a voice in deciding who they deal with. Its a conflict of interest. The state and local governments should give each job a salary and defined benefits that people who apply for can clearly see. I bet you those jobs would not sit empty.

    This law has had outstanding results in just one school district in Wisconsin, if you do a little searching you will find many more. Hell, if you read more of the article then what I bolded you will see the bill allowed the school to hire more teachers, decrease the class sizes and provided students with more 1 on 1 time with teachers, for those who need it. Now how is working to provide kids a better education theatre? I guess it is only to the ignorant.
     
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    The governor has no power to touch the public unions. Only business can do that.
     
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    I cannot wait to see exGov. Walker kicked out in disgrace...that's what he gets for fraudulently promising Wisconsinites something other than busting the unions, illegally holding votes without public being present, illegally sending out the State Police Gestapo fashion to bring back the Dems from stopping the vote.

    He gave the Koch Brothers a gigantic no-bid contract within weeks of becoming governor. Walker's azz is bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers...he is a fraud and does not deserve the office of Governor, and I am glad to see the people of Wisconsin striking back at this flagrantly bought politician.
     
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    Dear Mr. Ignorant,

    Gov. Walker turned a deficit into a surplus. I know this goes against everything liberal/progressive... but it is actually good for the citizens.
     
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    Okay, I'll call your bluff, why don't you list with references what WI teachers unoins did and juxtapose that list with the other public unions, in what you call "liberties". :omg:

    For the question, "impossible to bargain collectively with the government”/B], one site had George Meany and another FDR.
    In 1955, George Meany, then-president of the AFL-CIO, said, “It is impossible to bargain collectively with the government.” In 1959, the AFL-CIO Executive Council declared, “In terms of accepted collective bargaining procedures, government workers have no right beyond the authority to petition Congress — a right available to every citizen.”

    http://thinkfree.freedomblogging.co...proves-government-unions-are-a-bad-idea/4739/

    I am going to go with George Meany on this.

    FYI, you didn't directly ask me in the reply until so I didn't it was meant for me.
     
  25. Ironball

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    No...... I just uncovered your disingenuous attempt to fabricate.

    You aren't doing your credibility any favors.......but I suspect you are accustomed to that.

    If your wet dream doesn't work out as you have prematurely announced, you are going to look a bit silly don't you think?
     

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