How long before Ron Paul posts are dropped?

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    i don't think you understand the libertarian political strategy called 'outreach to rednecks'
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    The Republican Party should have given more attention, and spent more money, within their own country. It was not as if no one could have seen the recession coming. There were clear warning signs even seven years before the official start of the recession. The Republican just continued to spend more money that they did not have, just adding more to the government debt. They were worse than the Democrats before them. What happened to saving money in the good times to be able to spend it in the bad?

    Hundreds of billions of US dollars were spent on foreign involvement. The USA would have been better off letting a few hundred more Americans die from terrorism. How much is a human life really worth? That money could have gone to saving cancer victims or homeless people from dying on the streets.

    Yes, nuclear weapons are a concern. But the USA never had any intention of invading North Korea. So we can see it was not really about nuclear weapons.
     
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    I would have to agree good point about North Korea , But North Korea does

    not have to deal with Israel acting like a paranoid crack head .
     
  4. SiliconMagician

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    "Paranoid Crack head"??

    It is generally accepted wisdom among most experts that the Arabs are going to, at some point in the future, make another military push to invade Israel!

    That is not some "paranoid fantasy". The mere existence of Israel as a Jewish State is offensive to the entire Muslim world and they wish to destroy it. Democracy isn't going to change that, because the People themselves want to destroy Israel.

    Israel does not have the luxury of going pacifist. They are literally under siege and even if they were complete pacifists who gave the Muslim world everything it wants short of actually packing bags and moving to Europe or somewhere else, the Muslims will still attack them with a massive war at some point in the future.
     
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    Oooooh....poor babies.

    :rolleyes:
     
  6. Anders Hoveland

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    I find it interesting that the American conservatives are so divided on the issue of Israel- whether Israel is more of an asset or liability.

    The big irony in the Democratic party is that most leftist voters do not support Israel. But the democratic party leadership is essentially dominated by jewish-american special interest groups.

    From what I have heard, most Palestinians (and Egyptian muslims) are open to a fair solution. But American conservatives are fed a bunch of propaganda (from the jewish special interest groups and dominated media) that all the arabs want to "wipe Israel off the face of the earth". Remember that the Iranians do not even consider themselves an Arab people.
     
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    If sanity reigns, soon enough the voters will drop him.
     
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    By 'if sanity reigns', you must mean the status quo as I see no one else that is challenging the same old/same old.

    If not, kindly point to me where any other candidate will do more than rearrange the deck chairs.
     
  10. Anders Hoveland

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    California may have many many people (more people than the entire country of Canada in fact), but most of those people vote for the democratic party. So having republican support in California is not quite as important as it may first appear.

    This map might appear to show that Republicans dominate the state, but actually most of California's population lives near the coast. And the area around Los Angeles has a VERY highly concentrated population. Those inland republican districts are only sparsely populated.
    http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/09/06/mn_a01_5star1.jpg
     
  11. DA60

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    Of course they are.

    I guarantee you most Palestinians especially are tired of living in perpetual poverty and political instability.

    Neo cons seem to like to think otherwise, but Palestinians ARE human beings.

    Sure, they resent their oppressors (few wouldn't) - but more then anything most of them just want a free and decent life for themselves and their families.
     
  12. dujac

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    it may take a while, but eventually truth trumps propaganda

    wider exposure of ron's underhanded political schemes will advance that

    the libertarian's 'outreach to rednecks' was just a pile of convenient, pandering lies
     
  13. Woogs

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    A survey from the Boston Globe and the University of New Hampshire shows Newt Gingrich’s bounce subsiding in New Hampshire, with Mitt Romney resuming his position as the unqualified local front-runner:

    Romney has the support of 39 percent of the state’s likely Republican voters, a drop of 3 percentage points since last month but a strong indication he is weathering Gingrich’s national comeback in a state vital to his campaign.

    In the closely watched contest for second place, Gingrich and Paul are tied with 17 percent each, just ahead of Jon Huntsman, who has the support of 11 percent of likely Republican voters.

    Among self-identified Republicans, Romney’s support is actually even more formidable: He wins 46 percent of GOP voters, versus 19 percent for Gingrich, 13 percent for Paul and 7 percent for Huntsman. While there's demand for a Romney alternative on the right, in New Hampshire and nationally, the local demand is more modest as 43 percent of conservatives choose Romney, while 23 percent choose Gingrich and 14 percent choose Paul.

    The race for independent voters is much closer, with Paul in the lead: 36 percent of independents choose him, while 25 percent choose Romney, 21 percent choose Huntsman and 16 percent choose Gingrich. Paul is also the favorite of Democratic voters: He wins 26 percent of Democrats to Huntsman’s 21 percent, Romney’s 18 percent and Gingrich’s 16 percent.

    Which is to say that the concern Iowa Republicans expressed to POLITICO last week, that a coalition of disaffected libertarians, liberals, independents and Democrats could crash the caucus on Ron Paul’s behalf, is a live possibility in New Hampshire as well.


    http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/
     
  14. dujac

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    it takes votes to win an election, not wishful thinking
     
  15. Libhater

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    Mitt has a lock on his neighboring state of NH. Mitt will be the Republican nominee. End of story!
     
  16. marbro

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    Ron Paul is coming in strong and I can taste the fear in big government supporters.

    I love it!!!

    RON PAUL2012
     
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    gee..I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!!
     
  18. Libhater

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    Look Marlboro Man, it doesn't matter if Paul outright wins Iowa or not for he isn't going to win any of the other primaries. Point to one other primary besides Iowa where he has a chance of even coming in third or fourth for that matter.
     
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    Virginia.

    ;)
     
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    Wow you sound a lot like the MSM. An Iowa win won't matter. A NH win won't matter. How many wins will it take to consider him electable to you? If you can't answer that then there is no point in pointing out all of the primaries that he has a good chance of winning.
     
  21. What is free

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    Romney = disgrace to the Republican party. Individual mandates, TARP... REALLY?!?
     
  22. Woogs

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    Ummm....New Hampshire?

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    In the closely watched contest for second place, Gingrich and Paul are tied with 17 percent each, just ahead of Jon Huntsman, who has the support of 11 percent of likely Republican voters.

    But as the race hurtles toward the Jan. 10 primary, Paul has been gaining the most in New Hampshire. His support has risen by 5 percentage points since November, while Huntsman has picked up 3 percentage points in the last month and Gingrich has gained 2.

    The momentum for Paul raises the prospect that he, not Gingrich, could emerge as the strongest early challenger to Romney if the Texas congressman can hold on to his lead in Iowa and capture second place in New Hampshire.

    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/12/25/romney_leads_paul_rises_in_nh_poll/
     
  23. marbro

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    Actually it is Marbro. It doesn’t surprise me that you would attack me personally it seems to be your MO.

    Ron Paul winning Iowa means a lot more than your obviously ignorant opinion.


    Why are you here trying to discredit Ron Paul? You got nothing good to say about your own guy? Do you even have a guy? or gal?

    A real man would stand by their ideals and not hide behind animosity.
     
  24. dujac

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    will draw more unwanted scrutiny
     
  25. Shangrila

    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    So what exactly will that do for us?
    Government getting bigger yet.
    More infringement into our affairs.
    More Gov spending.
    More war mongering.
    More back room backslapping and deals that do nothing for us, but are made to keep politicians in power and well rewarded.
    Same lies, same promises, more of the same, more of a Dem-Rep seesaw.
    Carry on.
     

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