4 million to 5 million in 17 days

That quote from Dr. Redfield is a blatant hoax. He never made that statement.

 

Many countries bent the curve, we're one of the few failures.

The countries that succeeded had a strong, national plan.

Which we don't.

 

What happens to those countries when they are financially broke from being shut down and they have to go back to work? They will not have the resources to deal with the eventual outbreak.

 

It’s spreading quickly which is a great thing but it’s not killing as many as stated to the public. Here’s how every single COVID19 death is counted.


I’m suspecting that COVID19 has lessened the number of deaths for heart disease, pneumonia, emphysema and diabetes.

Hey, George Floyd tested positive for COVID19 at the time of his death. Does the Minnesota coroner follow CDC guidelines and dare put COVID19 as cause of death?

 

BY MADELEINE CARLISLE
UPDATED: MARCH 14, 2020 11:32 AM EDT | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: MARCH 14, 2020 11:22 AM EDT

On Saturday, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced the state’s first confirmed coronavirus-related death: an 82-year-old woman in New York City who suffered from emphysema. According to The New York Times, the woman died in Manhattan.

I’m sure the 45 years of smoking had no bearing on the 82 year olds cause of death.

 

Dr. Ezkiel - in that same press conference - said that obvious instances where someone died from a cause that was wholly unrelated to Covid-19, like a bus crash, would not be counted in the roles.

 

160,000 Americans have died because Covid-19 played a causal role in their death.

 

Post that part. Either in video or a verifiable context. ie


IDPH Director explains how Covid deaths are classified

April 20, 2020 2:13 am
Lauren Melendez
CORONAVIRUS, NEWS, TOP STORY

(CHICAGO) WEEK - State Health officials have acknowledged a bending of the "Covid Curve" seeing smaller spikes in positive cases, or rather, not as exponential of a jump as recorded weeks ago when virus testing capability was much lower.

Additionally, despite the additional virus-related deaths being reported everyday, Illinois Department of Public Health reports those numbers are decreasing too.

Still, the department's Director, Dr. Ngozi Ezike used part of her time during Sunday's health briefing to explain how the department determines if a death is related to Coronavirus.

Essentially, Dr. Ezike explained that anyone who passes away after testing positive for the virus is included in that category.

"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.

She reiterated Illinois health officials will continue to work vigorously to protect the state's most vulnerable populations.

 

And in that same time frame 1.6 million Americans have died from other than COVID19. Last I heard, but I can’t verify, is that the average age of U.S. Covid-19 deaths is 78 years old. Ironically the same as the current U.S. life expectancy.

 

Again someone with minimal research background

 

Trying for heard immunity without an effective available vaccine is a fools errand.

That would require a death count in the millions

 

And back you go to the

"They're old ...they were gonna die anyway"

thing huh?

 

It's crazy talk.

Which is to say it's a day of the week that ends with a y.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/about-30-covid-deaths-may-not-be-classified-such

A count of "excess deaths" shows that deaths are UNDRCOUNTED by as much as 30%

 

Done.

Ezike said that the state is being careful to make sure to weed out deaths where the patient had COVID-19, but died in a manner completely detached from the virus, such as gunshot wounds or motor vehicle crashes.

There are also some additional deaths that happen in someone who happened to be COVID positive, but where the COVID infection had nothing to do with the deaths,” she said. “So we are at IDPH trying to remove those obvious cases where the COVID diagnosis was not the reason for the death. If there was a gunshot wound, if there was a motor vehicle accident, we know that that was not related to the COVID positive status.

“We are trying to make sure that things that aren’t related at all to the COVID diagnosis are removed, but if someone has another illness, like heart disease, and then had a stroke or other event, it’s not as easy to separate that and say COVID didn’t exacerbate that existing illness. That would not be removed from the count,” she added.

Source

 

So someone with covid dies of gunshot or traffic accident is not counted as covid? No sheet? Really?

 

No sheet

 

The wisdom is blinding.

 

I’m sorry... did you have something to add to the discussion?
We must have all missed it

 

I’m just perplexed that a poster touts gun shot wounds and traffic accidents as non covid as some sort of proof that the death count is accurate.

 

I’m not sure what exactly means but the above post noting excess deaths shows that Covid deaths are underreported by as much as 30%

 

That is correct. Those individuals who die in manners where it is blatantly obvious that covid-19 was not the cause of their death will not count as a covid-19 death.

 

There are a host of reasons why we should believe that the covid death count is being undercounted, if anything.

But I pointed out that quote to directly refute the notion that people are either intentionally or unintentionally mislabeling a significant number of non covid related deaths as being caused by covid-19.

 

It’s in the CDC death certificate reporting guidelines that a positive covid test is not required for a death certificate to include covid.

 

Right, because protecting ourselves is not why we wear them. They are to protect others by containing our droplet emissions. Yes, the virus is smaller than the pores in a mask, but virus particles exit your body in water droplets which do get caught. Even if your mask doesn't catch every single virus particle, it will catch most making the space around you far less contagious. Numerous tests and examples have been done to show the effectiveness of this.