5M Americans have missed second vaccine dose: report

That's their choice.

 

Imagine a pandemic so deadly that you have to bribe people to get the vaccine....

 

I am confused how you needed to be tested before multiple outpatient procedures but you haven't been in contact with anyone? Outpatient procedures usually involve contact and proximity.

In any event, watching the levels of misery in the COVID wards I see, I can't even imagine any negative effects from vaccine reaction I have heard that would dissuade my getting the vaccines to prevent COVID.

That process can truly suck from some victims. Not for me, for sure.

 

I'm not sure that I'm understanding your question correctly so this may not answer it.

Let's say that I had to schedule a colonoscopy with my GI doctor. They won't see me if I have C19 so I have to go to their testing center within 48 hours of the appointment. They get the results and call me the morning of the appointment to give me the results. This happened for the 4-5 procedures I had scheduled.

I can't prove it, but I think you might be right. I suspect I got it from a staff member during one of the tests (I had three within a month) if it was a true positive. It's just not humanly possible any other way given my total isolation. Either that, or my friend had a false negative.

I am leaning toward the vaccine. I just wish I had a crystal ball. Which one did you get (if I may ask)? I think my choices are Moderna and Pfizer. I haven't heard about anyone here (IL) having the option for J&J.

 

I took the Pfizer, primarily for availability but overall it seemed to be a little better overall. But earlier the better! Since I spend time in hospital labs and pharmacy, I am not isolated! Although I do not interact face to face to patients, but I am near by. I do like to exchange talk with patients, though, since their isolation is sad. Especially sad when a family member has died and the other member is in bed and isolated from other members (face to face chat is sure nice when families have connection available).

The possibility that J and J may be more effective for variants is attractive, although not the issue. I will get that or whatever is best anytime available as time goes by.

I see nothing from any of vaccines gives me the slightest pause. None of them have any negative comparison to credible risk to COVID.

 

You mean apart from the clot deaths and significant illnesses?

 

I'm a bit unclear on your situation. Wouldn't you be prioritized if your role involves hospital labs and pharmacies? I was under the impression that medical care workers were given priority. I'm in IL and all healthcare workers (even in-home caregivers) were given priority.

 

Blood clotting is one of my concerns because I have an artificial knee. It seems like there are new reports of bad side-effects every other day. It's a bit overwhelming. And, we may be a long way out toward herd immunity if it's true that a large percentage of Republican men and anti-vaxxers are declining the vaccine.

 

Less than 1 in a million of clots chance?

Please. Take the shot. Simply avoid a single 24 mile drive in the next year or two, and your risk is equivalent

Avoid another 24 mile drive and you, in the first 24 mile drive you avoided, now double more safe, along avoiding the 1 in 850 chance of death from COVID.

That is a WIN-WIN.

 

Because he is informed--he had no symptoms at all, and he is very much aware of the many failures of the PCR tests.

They did not test him every day for 2 weeks, at least as I understand it, he went every day for 2 weeks to undergo a procedure to cleanse his blood. They hooked him up to an IV procedure that lasted an hour or more. He had some weird blood infection as I understand it.

 

I was reading about this hospital just yesterday. First, they offered $500 and now are threatening termination.

 

...the vaccine that ain't a vaccine....

 

you went in for medical care often it sounds like.... I never got tested for covid, I think may have had it as well, but going in to be tested increases your risk of catching it as people that thought they may have had it are there being tested

that said, I got my two doses

 

sadly many worshiped a man that got the vaccine and hid it from them

 

They don't have testing set up that way. You go to an isolated area of the building and are the only person in there besides staff members who are all wearing masks except the person doing the swab (she is wearing a decompression helmet). Some of the tests were done in a drive-thru where you stay in your vehicle so no contact with anybody except the one doing the swab. He/she is wearing a full face and body protection.

I have gone through this a thousand times in my head trying to figure it out. It is much easier with the devil you know. I have no idea how I got it so I have no idea what to avoid in the future.

Glad you got your doses. Are you doing well?

 

Testing positive with a grossly unreliable test DOES NOT MEAN the person is infected. As Elon Musk demonstrated, the tests are about like a coin toss. Heads you have it, tails you don't.

 

how many people with covid took the same path to that isolated area of the building

I think one increases the risks of getting diseases when going to a hospital, just have to weigh the risks - I was not sick enough to want to risk going just to "know" - but I did risk it for the vaccine

I am doing well, thanks, other than sore arm for like a day (not that bad) was fine - I got the pfizer one, other family members got Moderna and were fine too

 

I didn't stay there all day to stalk the place, lol. There was nobody directly in front of me or behind me. They said they schedule 15 minutes apart so nobody is in the testing room with other patients. There was a handicapped push button so I could open the door with my elbow.

Fortunately for me, all my outpatient procedures were done at dedicated outpatient facilities so I was never around other patients in a waiting area. I would have opted not to go if I had to go to a traditional hospital for my procedures.

Actually, last Summer I was in the hospital for 10 days. It was not related to COVID. In the last few days I had to walk with a physical therapist a few times per day. I never saw ANY other patients in any of the other rooms, none in the hallways, none anywhere.

Glad all of you are doing well.

 

Update: I did wind up getting the second shot 4-29. I have not had any noticeable side effects that could be attributed to the second shot. I did have to go 4-27 and get another round of steroids, a shot in office and a six day daily dose pack to stop the skin rash from spreading (prednisone). I am hoping it does not come back this time, and everything I have read says it should be about to run its course - I think it is about 4-6 weeks from the first injection for most.

Through all of this, I have really lost a lot of faith in the medical profession. Not because the vaccine has side effects, but because the doctors my wife and I have seen are seemingly unwilling or reluctant to acknowledge the writing on the wall. I know we are all just human, but when you make the kind of money doctors do, and are making life changing medical decisions, you need to be up to at least the level of knowledge as your patients, especially with respect to a world wide pandemic. My wife is a type 1 diabetic, and through the years I have become completely accustomed to her and I telling our primary care clinic exactly what medicine/dose she needs to treat her - and even correcting them when they call in the wrong drug. It's understandable, it is not their specialty. But COVID and knowledge being posted in journals about the vaccines and side effects, should be common knowledge right now. If I can find it in thirty seconds on google, they should know it and be prepared to encounter it.

Sorry about the rant. If anyone is having a skin reaction similar to shingles or poison ivy from a vaccine, her is some quick links with pictures. And the steroids I was taking absolutely worked to hold the rash at bay, with out it I believe it would have gotten really bad.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/92106
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...actions-not-dangerous-coronavirus/7109380002/

Edit: To anyone reading this, this is just my experience. Don't base your medical decisions off of what I post on the internet. As bad as this has been for me and my wife, I would probably do it again to help us reach herd immunity. Lives are at stake, and we all need to try to do our part where we can.

 

I saw a Budweiser ad last week on TV. They offer to buy your first beer if you take the shot.

I don't drink much beer any more, but I will never buy another Budweiser product.

 

You know what else has bad side effects? the Covid-19 virus itself! Why not just go all the way if you already go the first one? (I mean unless the side effects are super horrible). From what I've heard, most side effects are happening to people after the 2nd dose.

 

Consider this hypothetical scenario: Joe and his wife take the first shot, and then a week before they are due their second shot, they discover certain knowledge, maybe like this Physical Therapist Dies Two Days After Getting COVID-19 Shot in Indiana - The Vaccine Reaction and get cold feet and buyer's remorse?

 

I washed one of my dirty bikes, cleaned and lubed chain, tires inflated, made sure both bikes were fine, serious inspection, because there was no way in hell I was missing the second shot; got there thirty minutes early, got me poked in minutes, really cute girl too. A lot of people probably missed for no scared of stuff reason, they just missed it, and have to ask the same question you did about starting over, there are plenty of videos on YouTube answering that question. Other than my arm, nothing weird yet.

 

I can speak from personal experience. My first shot of the Moderna vaccine disabled my left arm for 4 days. It was quite painful just to move it. When I went for the second shot I timed it so that my disabled arm would have less affect on my activities. As it turned out, I had a very slight soreness from the second shot which was gone by the next morning. No big deal at all. Others who might have had a similar experience with their first shot could well have decided to forego the second shot for that reason. I suppose others might have thought that the first shot was good enough and, I would say, they could be right. I don't know. So it can make sense to some seniors.

 

Thanks for sharing your experience. I think you may be right about people fearing the second shot especially when most of the feedback has been the second dose has more side effects than the first.