A damning new article reveals how Trump enables Russian election interference

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    They just can't let it go.
     
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    And as Obama told Medevev, “ Tell Vladimir that I will have more FLEXIBILITY after the election.” What do you think Obama meant by THAT? Now OBAMA was divisive!
     
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    An opinion piece where is @Andrew Jackson so he can report this offense.
     
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    Op-eds are always published with intent. The WaPo and NYT are the worst.
     
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    Are you kidding?

    A few years ago, the Intelligence Community reported to Trump that North Korea had successfully tested a missile capable of reaching the U.S. Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin about it. Putin told Donald that it was fake news and not to worry. When the subject came up again, Trump told our intelligence experts "I don't care. I believe Putin."

    That's a prime example of Trump preferring Putin's words over our own. Remember Helsinki? If not, go on Youtube and watch that press conference. Trump's obsequious kowtowing to Putin is obvious and sickening.

    Pulling troops out of Syria, to the dismay of our military who were ordered to leave our allies, the Kurds, to the ravages of Turkey's dictator, Erdogan. That works in Putin's favor ... his alliance with Assad and our absence from the region give Putin something he wants very much: a port in the Mediterranean.

    Pulling troops out of Germany, which weakens any NATO response in eastern Europe, is also a gift to Putin.

    Does that answer your question? If not, there's more where that came from. Do some research, please.
     
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    Because Trump LOVES him some Putin
     
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    “pro-Russia Ukrainian parliamentarian Andriy Derkach is spreading claims about corruption — including through publicizing leaked phone calls — to undermine former Vice President Biden’s candidacy and the Democratic Party.” Left unstated is that Derkach has met repeatedly with Trump’s lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, as part of this effort, and that Sen. Ron Johnson (R.-Wis.) is now launching a politically motivated investigation based on the Russian propaganda against Biden.
     
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    Oh I see. It looks bad for Biden so its "damning"... Bidens least worrisome problem is the Ukraine fiasco.
     
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    Yes, it is.

    The EU's forces, those that are NATO members, are not enough to respond if Putin decides to invade and "reacquire" the Baltic states, all three of which are now NATO members with dues fully paid. Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia also all sent troops and equipment and supplies to aid us in Afghanistan in 2001, when GW Bush invoked Article V of the NATO charter.

    Pulling troops out of Germany greatly increases the amount of time it would take us to organize a defense should the Baltic states invoke Article V, which they would certainly do if Putin makes that move, and he certainly will if we pull our troops out of Germany.

    Trump has been helping Putin since the start.
     
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    Because of the incalculable damage Trump has done and continues to do to the US.

    "Yet even while admitting that Russia is once again mounting a covert campaign to help Trump, Evanina felt compelled to balance this inconvenient reality by also saying what Trump wants to hear: that China and Iran favor Biden’s election. This moral equivalence disguises the difference between Iranian and Chinese opposition to Trump — expressed primarily through public statements and actions — and the covert disinformation campaign waged by Russia with eager assistance from Trump’s aides and enablers. “Between China and Russia, only one of those two is trying to actively influence the outcome of the 2020 election, full stop,” a senior U.S. official told The Post."
     
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    It does tend to get the Trump Denial Syndrome juices flowing, does it not?
     
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    "Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), who has been briefed on the intelligence findings, suggests that the intelligence community is still concealing the full extent of Russian interference. He wrote in a Post opinion column that “the sophisticated tactics and techniques described in [a State Department] report make Moscow’s past interference and nefarious actions look like child’s play,” and “there is much more” information — "much of it even more chilling” — that has yet to be released."

    The question is..............why have you?
     
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    Obama had previously drawn criticism from politicians in the U.S. and Europe for canceling the Bush-era plan to station land-based interceptors in Poland and the Czech Republic in 2009. Obama was further criticized for announcing the change on the day of the 70th anniversary of the Soviet Union's invasion of Poland during World War II.
    Conley said that announcement would "go down in the history of poorly timed announcements."
    Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.
    Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.
    But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/politics/nato-missile-defense-romania-poland/index.html
     
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    "Russia’s current efforts against Biden can be traced back to his time in the White House, Evanina said, noting that the desire to wound his candidacy was “consistent with Moscow’s public criticism of him when he was Vice President for his role in the Obama Administration’s policies on Ukraine and its support for the anti-Putin opposition inside Russia.”

    In addition to the disinformation campaign by Derkach, Evanina said, “some Kremlin-linked actors are also seeking to boost President Trump’s candidacy on social media and Russian television.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...e1ad8c-d8e0-11ea-aff6-220dd3a14741_story.html
     
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    Actually it looks bad for Johnson who is acting as a stooge for Putin
     
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    "Asked during a news conference Friday if he believed the intelligence assessment, Trump said that “it could be,” before directly contradicting part of the finding by saying, “The last person Russia wants to see in office is Donald Trump, because nobody’s been tougher on Russia than I have, ever.”

    When a reporter pointed out that his answer was not in line with the intelligence community, Trump said, “I don’t care what anybody says.”

    Translation: don't interrupt me when I'm lying.
     
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    OP is blaming the wrong Trump for hacking the election. It was Barron!


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    Nah, Trump Denial Syndrome, whatever that is, has nothing to do with it. I just think long dead horses out to be left alone or disposed of.
     
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    I wonder if the Obama Administration (Susan Rice) telling the NSA cyber investigators to stand down looking into Russian interference has anything to do with Blumenthal's feelings of paucity.
     
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    Stop giving them ideas! Nothing is too inane for them to use!
     
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    So all I have to do is post a pro Trump opinion piece to debunk this tangled pastiche.

    Do better.
     
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    FYI, Giuliani is not Trumps lawyer... he's being paid by a Russian that works with Putin.

    It's the little things..
     
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    Which of course never happened
     
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    The above quoted Evanina is the FBI Chief in charge of Counterintelligence
     
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    So you're setting up for a Biden loss and more RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA and you do know Blumenthal is a proven liar. And yes the "Russian interference" last election was "child's play".

    Tell me what have they done to swing votes to Trump and are you now voting for Trump because of it?
     

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