About the Holocaust

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    What horrific crimes?
    You dont think it odd that no one can produce evidence of such crimes?
     
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    There are plenty of Jews who survived who were witnesses. Why don't you accept that as evidence?

    Why don't you accept the admissions of Nazi insiders like Speer and von Braun as evidence?

    What would you actually accept as evidence to prove the Holocaust occurred?
     
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    Their Lying leader

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    SOME EVENTS TAKE PLACE BUT ARE NOT TRUE, OTHER EVENTS ARE [true], ALTHOUGH THEY NEVER OCCURRED
    ~J-W Elie the Weasel

    But Elie you low down no good for **** weasel, "THAT MEANS YOU ARE TELLING LIES!" ~Rabbi


    Because there is big payoff for anyone who advertises for the trillion dollar the holohoax industry.

    Gas Chamber Survivors testimony,

    Narrator: But thats not the truth.

    "I KNOW I LIED,
    BUT IN MY IMAGINATION IT WAS TRUE"



    Do you hold the same opinion?



    They were either beaten to half to death or paid off with money or sweet deals.

    The bigger question is why do you toss all the hard material as in scientic evidence in the trash and accept admitted liars as the truth?
     
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    Why do you ignore these witness's?


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    Here is a nice Jewish man telling the truth, they served beer at auschwitz in the cantina!





    Why do you ignore this witness?



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    Why do you ignore this witness?


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    There is no scientific "evidence" that the HOLOCAUST never happened.

    Who has gotten a trillion dollars off of Holocaust claims? Multiple Citations needed from unbiased sources.

    Prove that Speer and/or von Braun were "beaten half to death" or "paid off". Multiple Citations needed from unbiased sources.
     
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    you mean the myth that 6 million J-Ws were gassed by ebo uncle adolph? That holocaust?

    To prove its true however you need proof, no proof, not true.

    oh yeh, there is no scientific evidence it did happen, well in the imaginations of certain J-Ws it did, but then they have 'fantastic' imaginations.

    Lucrative jobs instead of the gallows.
     
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    Spears was in prison for decades.
     
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    why dont you accept admissions of US Officials and the allies?

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    After Dresden, Joseph Goebbels angrily urged Hitler to retaliate by abrogating the Geneva Convention. However, Hitler and his military staff continued to abide by the Geneva Convention throughout the war. As a result, Goodrich states that almost 99% of Allied prisoners of war survived the war to return home. Goodrich, Thomas, The Death of Nazi Germany, 1944-1947, Sheridan, CO: Aberdeen Books, 2010, p. 127.


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    thats a really dumb questions since throughout this thread from about page 45 forward I have posted post after post of 'evidence I accept'.

    If its not clear to you, independent scientificaly derived evidence. Got any? All I see from your team is J-W contrived conspiracy theories.

    What would it take for you to accept scientifically derived evidence and official historic records contrary to the holocaust lie?
     
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    Actual evidence from unbiased sources and not some mindless drivel anti Semites pounded out on the internet.
     
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    Special pleading fallacy

    what part of the mindless J-W holocaust drivel is unbiased? Post citations and evidence from your unbiased sources.
     
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    I think we can agree that there is nothing about the holocaust (why do you use the term "J-W" anyway) that could be considered unbiased.

    But I'm going with the totality of 20th century global history. No credible history denies the Nazi perpetrated Holocaust. It is the equivalent of denying that the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.
     
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    that all lives in your biased imagination, you have posted nothing we can agree on.

    Naked statement fallacy.
    ad populum fallacy
    there are about 3 more fallacies that apply
    You have not posted one citation, you have not answerd either of my questions, I did answer yours, are you in a debate or just standing on a soapbox beer farting and belching?
     
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    I think some citations are in order defining exactly what is and what is not "credible history. Tell us where we can find your alleged 'credible history repository'.
     
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    If I post links to sites that provide evidence of the Holocaust will you agree beforehand to change your beliefs about the Holocaust entirely?

    If not then why should I bother with you? A holocaust denier who shouldn't be allowed to post here or anywhere else.
     
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    I don't think that anyone here denies that what has relatively recently come to be known as "THE Holocaust®" happened in that some Communists, Jews, Bolsheviks, Roma, Gays etc were incarcerated in work camps along with rapists, murderers, pedophiles and other criminals or threats to the state, real or perceived.

    What most independent thinking people around the world do not believe are the grossly inflated casualty numbers and fraudulent embellishments that are now the current holocaust narrative such as the "6 million Jews murdered" canard, the homicidal gas chamber hoax and similar fabricated narratives that slander the Germans as sadistic monsters when they were certainly no more brutal if as brutal as the Allies.

    One does not have to be overly fair minded to recognize the fact that both sides used propaganda. The only difference is that German/Nazi WW2 propaganda ended at the end of the war while residual, WW2, Allied propaganda has stuck in many Western minds and continues to comprise much of what many Westerners consider "WW2 history".

    Bit by bit, Holocaust Industry - Allied WW2 propaganda lies about "human skin pocketbooks", "human fat soap", the "Electrical Conveyor belt of death", the "Human Vaporizer"(1), German responsibility for the Katyn massacre etc have fallen by the wayside but especially stubborn Holocaust Industry and Allied propaganda lies about "6 million Jews murdered", "homicidal gas chambers" etc continue to sully MSM and stain the minds of people unwilling or unable to think critically & independently.

    So, no one here denies that the holocaust "happened", the disagreement seems to be on what really comprises "the holocaust".



    (1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED
     
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    Sure if you are a circuit court judge and have a bar card so I know you have some minimum level of evaluative evidentiary comprehension.
    You shouldnt waste your time posting anything on the subject at all if the only thing you have to back up your claims is testimony while denying the science which proves the opposite and that it was impossible.
    Promoters for the holocaust industry like yourself should not be allowed to spam these threads with advertising for the holocaust industry and the fantastical conspiracy theories against germany.

    You do whatever rocks your world, you think you got hard material/physical evidence that proves the J-W holocaust was real be my guest, bring it.

    ...and you better be prepared to litigate it if its not incontrovertible fact. :boxing:
     
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    The holocaust is true, the J-Ws burned to a crisp millions of germans in their holocaust pyre in direct violation of the geneva convention rules. The precise definition of a holocaust genocide was carried out by the J-Ws and their proxies not the germans.
     
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    Do you have any scientific evidence that the neo atheist zio commie Jews carried out this genocide?
     
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    Technically, you're right. Far more innocent German civilians were murdered by Allied firebombing than Communists, Jews, Bolsheviks, Gays etc were killed by Germany's National Socialists in the 1930s - 1940s.

    Also, I remember that you've already posted the true definition & Greek origin of the word "holocaust" elsewhere in this thread.

    It is especially noteworthy in this context that war criminal Winston Churchill even specified that he was far more interested in murdering innocent German refugees by "roasting" them via the firebombing of Dresden etc than having any impact on Germany's economy or "machinery of war". Now, that was a true holocaust.

    “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau.” Winston Churchill (*)

    Somehow, the clever folks at the global Holocaust Industry - Lobby who so crassly market what has commonly become known as THE Holocaust® settled on naming the event comprising the persecution of some of Europe's Communists, Roma, Bolsheviks, Jews, Gays etc as "THE Holocaust®" even though very few National Socialist victims were burned to death.

    Even though there have been many far more horrific and unnamed mass tragedies throughout history (aka holocausts), I simply recognize the term THE Holocaust as applying to the persecution of specific groups by Germany's National Socialists for the sake of clarity, simplicity & general understanding in spite of its technical inaccuracy.


    (*). "Winston Churchill: the Imperial Monster"
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/
     
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    Are there other sacred cows that require such draconian protections as the censorship you support & if not, why?

    The only reason that the international Holocaust Industry - Lobby is so desperate to enact undemocratic censorship laws around the world is that they know that the lies that they are perpetuating are too fragile to withstand open discussion and honest examination.

    The truth welcomes the sunlight of that same open discussion and honest examination while a lie can only survive under the darkness of repressive censorship laws.

    Professional holocaustians who attempt to promulgate the fraudulent holocaust narrative recognize how important it is to use any means to avoid "normal historical debate" and "rational argument" due to the transparent falsity of the hate filled myths they attempt to spread.

    “Care must be taken not to give a platform for deniers … or seek to disprove the deniers’ position through normal historical debate and rational argument.”

    ‘Guidelines for Teaching about the Holocaust’ at the Stockholm International Forum, 2000 (1)



    (1)"Holocaust Deprogramming Course"
    http://radiochristianity.com/holocaust-deprogramming-course/
     
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    I don't think that Eisenhower hated the Germans. He was of German descent himself.
    Claims that Eisenhower hated all Germans come from dubious sources. :(
     
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