Anthony Fauci approved the research that created Covid in a Wuhan lab.

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    That is according to a piece by Nickolas Wade. Wade is no hack or conspiracy nut. He was a science writer for the NY Times.

    According to Wade the Covid virus was created in a Wuhan lab studying person to person Sars viruses. Are you ready? The American tax payer paid for that research! Who approved that funding? Dr Anthony Fauci.

    Controversial because such dangerous research was approved for funding despite the fact the Wuhan virology lab was deemed no more biologically secure than the average doctor's office in the USA.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/wade-on-the-lab-leak-theory-of-covid/

    https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

    Wade's conclusions are that not only is the Covid virus not naturally occurring but that the actual virus was created in that lab!

    Wow set out to create a virus with the highest possible infectivity!!! Research funded by the American taxpayer in a lab known for poor security. Dangerous research funding signed off by Fauci!
     
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    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/wade-on-the-lab-leak-theory-of-covid/

    https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

    While uneducated posters here cry that the idea of the virus coming from a Wuhan lab and not from a natural source is a tin hat conspiracy the reality is that the Chinese government and Chinese scientists have not been able to prove a natural source. They have tried.

    Here is a quote from Dr Dasak the president of the EcoHealth Alliance on how easy it is to manipulate coronaviruses. This explains how vaccines were developed so quickly.
    So in short Covid emerged from very dangerous research being done in that virology lab in Wuhan with funding provided by the USA and approved by Saint Anthony Fauci. While we can never prove nefarious intentions to release a virus that would trash our economy and effect a political race it sure came in handy for one political party.




     
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    Anybody who doesn't think the virus came from that lab is simply naive.
     
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    Yes.. the NWO types will be on here accusing us of being tinfoil hat conspirators.. got to shut down the truth.. now, I was pretty sure from the beginning that it was a bioweapon, so question is.. is it's release intensional? BTW, perhaps someone should look into Fauci;s invewstments.. I thinnk he and some other malthusians have been getting extremely wealthy form this ... thing.
     
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    We will never be able to prove that this was intentional but the MSM and social media's attempts to hide and block the truth will not work. Americans will know that the virus came from a Wuhan lab.

    The human toll from Covid is astronomical and for Fauci to be treated as some kind of rock star because of it is disgusting.

    How about a 2 year $50M investigation?
     
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    Thanks for proving that it was Clinton who purchased the Steele dossier from Russia so real collusion there.

    Amazing how pathetic these people are. A world wide pandemic comes from a lab in China. Who cares right? But some made up crap about hookers peeing on Trump that matters!

    Libos still using 2016 talking points. You people are running on fumes but the pandemic got your crooked hero elected so that is all that matters.
     
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    Pretty much old news. We knew about Fauci towards the beginning of this. It was his company that was originally involved as well. Why is he still running this program? He should be found guilty of murder for leashing this on the world.
     
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    I don't think it was intentional. There was nothing for the communist party to gain by unleashing it. I think it escaped due to lab incompetence. I have also believed that it was a weaponized version of SARS that wasn't quite finished.
     
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    Not true, popular innuendo circulating amongst right wing media and dishonestly perpetuated by Senators Paul and Johnson

    "Fact check: US government did not engineer Covid -19"
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...t-intentionally-engineer-covid-19/3216066001/

    "Did Dr. Fauci fund research that created Covid -19"
    https://www.statesman.com/story/new...d-not-fund-research-tied-creation/4450338001/

    "Anthony Fauci did not fund research tied to Covid -19"
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...anthony-fauci-did-not-fund-research-tied-cov/
     
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    What really happened is that we were doing this research here until it became politically untenable so started funding it overseas. Yes it is research used to weaponize viruses but I don't believe it was released intentionally. Wuhan is a level two facility and here this would have been produced in a level 4 facility. I have worked in these facilities in managing air movement and controls. I think it was release the old fashioned way by poor management.
     
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    Which could very well be true, regardless, given the "point" of the tread, it is incorrect to say that Dr Fauci approved Covid funding in China as some on the right are now saying
     
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    Actually he did through the usual transfer of moneys to organizations that do the bidding. Many say this means the organizations are responsible but they don't do this without the go ahead. This is common and most people are not aware of how much of this goes on. Is he responsible for the leak at Wuhan, not necessarily but he is part of the issue that is common for the US to avoid US laws by funding in other countries.
     
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    By not explaining your links, you are misrepresenting them. It is my understanding that the whole reason this virus was being studied, was because its coronavirus family had shown the ability to make the jump to humans, from animals (e.g., SARS), and so this was an attempt to see the kind of virus that might develop in the future, so that we could get a head start, learning what type of vaccinations would be most effective against it.
     
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    So what? So what if the general objective was to develop a vaccine for SARs viruses? Take it up with Nickolas Wade.

    I did not quote any politicians. I linked Wade's piece and the national review's story about it. What are you afraid of? Who are you defending?

    This killer virus did not come from any natural source it came from research conducted at the Wuhan lab.
     
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    What is "gain of function research"? It is this"

    Creating novel viruses with the highest possible infectivity!!! That is gain of function research!

    This went on at the Wuhan lab. That is fact!
    There is no known natural source of Covid. That is fact.
    American research grants from the NIH were used to fund research at the Wuhan lab. That is fact!

    The links provided by a libo poster prove none of this wrong. They are trite little statements and nothing more.

    The media instead of rushing to defend Fauci, China and democrats should be on this like white on rice with real investigative intensity. A virus that has killed millions, impoverished and disrupted the lives of billions was created in a f****** lab by people and may have been created in part with our tax dollars!!!!
     
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    There is nothing, in your post, of which I am fearful. I am defending truth, straightforwardness, and honesty. To suggest that Covid-19 was made in a Chinese lab, and leave it at that, is akin to putting a cup of tea on someone's bed, as they slept, and when they woke to a wet bed, claiming that you spilled nothing, and were only trying to be thoughtful, by leaving the recipient a wake-up, morning beverage.

    To add that we, or as you say, Fauci, paid for it, begs for some explanation (which I showed was not hard to provide). You are clearly arguing-- at least-- that this was a boner move, on our part (more specifically, our NIH officials), but neglect to make any case for your proposition, which would have necessarily entailed explaining the initial rationale of our federal Health Administration.

    I am saying nothing of the case which you fail to make: whether or not this was a foolish thing for us to finance. My meaning is in no manner cloaked-- it is nothing more, or less, than that, since this OP relies on innuendo, it does not strike me having been honestly presented.
     
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    Fauci denied it so case closed nothing to it! MSM is satisfied. We have to defend saint Fauci and the 2nd most powerful country on earth! This is a real story that effects the entire world. Better to post about Trump getting pissed on.



    Why would a dime of our tax dollars fund any research in China? How many Americans would approve of that?
     
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    You cannot even use honest language. NIH tax dollars were spent on research at the Wuhan lab. A very insecure lab. I did not say "Fauci paid for it".

    Gain of function research was done in that lab. Given the type of research being done on very potent and dangerous viruses and given the level of security there why would we be a part of it?

    The MSM who have to defend China with their blood have been pushing some bullshit lie that it was all some accident. Some bat fornicated with a dog and some people ate the dog or something and that caused this pandemic. Anything not to blame the Chinese government or Chinese scientists.

    You are afraid of something because you felt the need to rush to Fauci's defense. Your little Trump hating libo hero scientist.
     
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    Note how Rand Paul asked him about funding research in general at the Wuhan lab and Fauci was the one who brought up gain of function research.

    Part of Rand Paul's problem is how our government and our media are so opposed to us even asking questions or investigating this issue. A pandemic that has killed probably 50 million people and harmed billions more is not worth investigating? We need to protect little China?

    Paul asked Fauci why we should trust the Chinese not to use any money we gave them for gain of function research and mentioned how the NIH is funding that type of research here in the USA.
     
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    Would it occur to anyone that there is a collaboration between the research that Dr Baric is doing at UNC and Dr Shi Zhengli at the Wuhan institute? They are colleagues, they work together!

    https://www.organicconsumers.org/bl...preparing-us-pandemic-or-putting-us-peril-one

    Shouldn't Americans know that such research that is creating super dangerous viruses is taking place and being subsidized by our tax dollars? Shouldn't Americans know that this research has taken place and is taking place in Chinese labs that are not ideally secure?

    USA today says no! Shut up racist!
     
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    Therr was nothing dishonest
    about my mentioning Fauci: I did not bother to look back at your post, and was going by memory, but I was sure you had mentioned Fauci by name. If it was in some other context, this was, at best, an aside, in my reply, i.e., nothing whatever central, or even significant about that detail, so for you to portray this simple mistake in some meaningless phrase, which none of my main idea depends on in the slightest, as an attempt at dishonesty is either more disingenuousness on your part, or else proof that the ideas I am writing, as straight forward as they seem to me, are beyond your level of comprehension; either way, it is little wonder, then, I did not feel it worth while to go back to reread your OP (which is titled Anthony FAUCI Approved the Research that created Covid...-- talk about nit-picking).

    Once more, you LIE, sir. As I already explained, your OP seemed misleading, which I find to be a distastefully, low-life move, something I am apt to comment upon, regardless of topic. But don't worry, if you continue to show yourself to be incapable of a civilized, adult conversation, only able to manufacture lies which you cannot substantiate at all, since they are, at best, only your pathetically-wrong assumptions, you will not have to worry about me wasting more time on responses to someone who is clearly not worth it (if you had trouble following that, I was referring to you).

    Oh yes, you can so easily read my mind. Now, if you could only write an honest OP. By the way, I notice now, you are finally making the argument that should have been at the top of your thread:

    Too bad you couldn't resist finishing that actual, rational argument, by calling the poster you were addressing, a "racist!" I really wonder if debates are your thing; you seem to approach them as if you'd prefer to be in a food-fight.
     
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    I did not call anybody a racist I'm saying that is the idiot knee jerk response to anybody who is critical of China and anything pertaining to this virus.
     
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    Naive, and in many cases also deeply in denial.

    Kudos to Starcastle for posting this, but for those of us with a conspiratorial mindset, it's old news.

    It's good to see National Review has found the courage to speak out.
     
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    Tucker had a good clip on it, and Rand Paul has just been
    Fauci... who is , if not outright lying, is certainly trying to deceive and hide the truth with the bureaucrats careful choices of phrasing.
     
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