Anthony Fauci approved the research that created Covid in a Wuhan lab.

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Hmm sounds like your dismissing on innuendo as well. I don't understand this thinking, this virus killed lefties, righties and independents by the millions around the world. Fact there was a moratorium in the US in this kind of studies (how to make coronaviruses the most effective for human transmission), Fact Fauci approved a loophole to fund and funneled money to contractors which funded the Wuhan lab to study this very thing, Fact this virus did not come from some random bat that crapped on a piece of meat that was eaten in Wuhan (f'ing ridiculous to say the least), and Fact the first case was in Wuhan.

    The world needs to get to the bottom of it, it's killed people in every country and crushed economies that will lead to starvation and more death worldwide. I do not understand why any lefty wouldn't want to get to the truth and I'm not saying that Mr. Wade's conclusion is the whole truth but it damn sure has verifiable evidence that needs to be investigated. This virus wasn't political even though it was used by many that way, this virus was a super contagious killer the modern world hasn't seen and whatever created this thing needs to be eliminated to ensure we don't fight this world wide battle again.
     
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    The only part of your, "reply," that I don't whole-heartedly agree with, is its suggestion that I ( i.e., "any lefty") don't support getting to the bottom of the cause. You did NOT get that from my post, to which you replied, which makes the point so clearly that it is hard to imagine any member here so thick-headed, that their interpretation (provided they actually read my post) could have wandered astray to where you somehow ended up.

    So you are inserting a meaning into my post which is expressly not there. Clearly, you are choosing to doubt my word: a terrible call, on your part, not just here but on any of my postings. To wit, see my post in a similar thread, in this same forum, Could an Accident have Caused Covid-19?..., which I made before my post in this thread, to which you responded:
    So you are only preaching to the choir. My post's intention, in this thread, was just as I had stated. We are only now starting to delve into the known facts & background info, here, thought these should have been part of the OP (or at least covered by the 2nd post). In fact, your assertion above, that this research has been prohibited in the U.S., contradicts what Star Castle had seemed to be implying:
    My point had been that this slow & confusing release of the basic facts/counter-facts, is unjustifiable. What led to Star Castle withholding them, and then being somewhat obscure in explanations (was there a U.S. lab collaborating w/ Wuhan, or is that research prohibited here?-- you provided no link for your info) is the only mystery.
     
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  3. Starcastle

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    A senator from Wisconsin named Ron Johnson has not taken a vaccine because he is naturally immune. He had the virus and has his own antibodies against the virus. Johnson also argued that since vaccines are supposed to work people who have been vaccinated or are naturally immune like him should not be obsessed with whether others are vaccinated because they are immune.

    You know what that is? Science!

    Because he said this on Fox Brian Williams an alleged journalist(NBC-MSNBC) called him a tool of Russia. Williams said he spews Russia talking points.



    Tool of Russia!

    What is the evidence of that? There is none at all. Tucker Carlson is the god of truth compared to Brian Williams.

    Perhaps instead of writing 50 posts defending Anthony Fauci and bashing Tucker ignorant posters might spend some time commenting on how their heroes in service to the democrat party have been obsessed with Russian conspiracies for the last 5 years and lying for the last 5 years! Talk about a dishonest conspiracy.

    What does Russia have to do with vaccines?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, I saw Johnson on Tucker's show. He comes across as credible and conscientious.

    He still hasn't figured out we've all been duped, but maybe he has and just won't admit it on TV.
     
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    yea like the WMD from iraq ;) until we can fully access it, no one gonna know where it came from.
     
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    Evil Clown Fauci’s Latest Covid-19 Flip-Flop May Be His Most Disturbing Yet:

    “He also dismissed the theory that COVID-19 was found in nature, brought to a lab, and then escaped. Fauci, arguably (though not justifiably) the most trusted person when it comes to COVID-19, set the tone for how theories about COVID-19’s origins would be treated. If you suggested it came from a lab or was man-made, you were laughed off as a kook. In retrospect, it seems like Fauci was trying to protect himself, as it turns out that his National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases may have funded ‘controversial ‘gain of function’ research where coronaviruses were made ‘more infectious in humans,’’ at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
     
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    We will put you on the naive list.
     
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    so tell me how you gonna gather evidence if you can't access the lab? everything is base on theory, it could be leaked accidentally or from wet market. until we get solid proof its all just theories.
    we were 100% sure on the WMD in iraq as well
     
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    I haven't said a word about evidence. I have been talking about common sense.

    We could have been right. We don't know because there was no evidence.
     
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    what common sense? its either from wet market or accidentally leaked, but no way to know the full fact without accessing the labs etc.
    as for WMD in Iraq, pre-war, everybody saying iraq has it with abundance of evidence, post-war is like where is it. well there goes trillions $$ and thousands lives.
     
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    I'm sure we could verify it. I'd ask China for the personnel roster and to blood test all of them for antibodies. 7-11M dead. Trillions in damages. It's a small ask Xi.
     
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    verify how, its been year and half, and like china just gonna allow us get into their country and test them lol.
     
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    It's not like Gorbachev would tear down the wall, but that doesn't mean you don't demand it. We want the rosters, antibody tests, as well as the cctv/interviews/polygraphs to confirm them. Double the Holocaust. We aren't joking. If they are unwilling, we announce our intention to remove their government. You don't double the Holocaust deaths, and get to maintain power.
     
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    so how you gonna remove their government, they are not iraq. i consider them 2nd most powerful military in the world. invade china? how did that go in korea war.
    and its been a year, any anti-body could result from 2020-now. also what happen if china said they want inspect fort detrick too, cause there are chinese conspiracy theories said its from US lab. Test american scientist for anti-body, polygraph etc etc. also what about h1n1 we didn't do crap about it, its cause alot death too. china back then also want to investigate US, we shut them down.

    beside WHO did interview their staff from lab.
    here is a lengthy video from some WHO investigator regarding their investigation start @50min
     
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    How else do you think vaccines are made?
     
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    We should do whatever possible to remove them. But we should figure out a way to do it without harming the Chinese people. Find a way to allow the Chinese to see and talk about topics on the internet that the CCP blocks (or colludes with big tech to block). Lock out the highest level CCP from the financial markets. Ban all luxuries exports. All world leaders constantly put rhetorical pressure on them. Expose them for dangerous incompetents that are no good for the Chinese people. Enlist the world's help. Everyone lost people and money. Some leaders are already taking the right path. Do something.
     
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    This SARS virus originated, according to the Chinese, in Wuhan in a market about a mile from a virology lab known for doing research on weaponizing viruses such as SARS and including SARS. Three employees of that lab were hospitalized from a mysterious virus. There is no evidence of natural transfer from an animal. Use your common sense. Or don't as you see fit.
     
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    ok their employee name and details? how did that source came by? china is not a easy place to access even for intelligent let alone western journalist. i mean we were sure on WMD too, look how that turn out. its not common sense unless you have phd in virology. was common sense Iraq got WMD with all the connection etc
     
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    chinese are very nationalistic, ever wonder why there aren't any tiannmen square like that of 89, even though hundreds millions travel oversea for the past decades, and they can access all western media via VPN. if you ask them about cultural revolution etc etc very likely they know about it.
    Ban luxuries export? gucci bag/ BMW? china is the biggest market for those. those corporation is not gonna want to lose out that market.
    trust me chinese see western media everyday via VPN, especially oversea tourist/exchange students, the more you bash them, the more they support their government, its call nationalism. Also chinese been mostly atheist, are materialistic as long as CCP provide economic goods, they are fine with it. They still remember the 100 years of shame and opium war. if we intervene, then they will see us as enemy as oppose to savior. CCP is very good at use external threat to united their population.
     
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    This is old news...guess you people need to watch more right wing media since you seem to be late to every party...we've known about this for months...probably almost a year now.
     
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    Democrats will disrupt this topic and praise Fauci since they believe he and Trump are enemies. The essentials of the virus were passed to Trump by Fauci. Fauci knows how it went for Trump so he is shoveling uphill faster than a badger digging a hole to evade any blame at all.
     
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    Fauci draws a larger paycheck than does Biden.
     
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    There is no known bat habitats remotely close to Wuhan. The fact we know it was in Wuhan shows it is made by the Chinese and somebody in the Lab got sick and later spread it though probably not maliciously so.

    The caves where the Bats are is around a thousand miles distant.

    You can tell where the Caves are by studying this google map of Wuhan and parts of China. I had to expand it a bit to see where the hills start. Then i used satellite.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/W...39c2c9ac6c582210!8m2!3d30.592849!4d114.305539
     
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    We will put you in the bat and pangolin category.
     

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