Arnold Schwarzenegger’s speech to Americans.

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really ? Now the defense of Trump is “we dont know”.

    We dont know about Hunter Biden, but the right is **** sure he is is in Chinas back pocket right ? Not Ukrainian now, the new boogie man is China
     
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    Arnold Schwarzenegger’s speech to Americans.
    Who dusted off this ole political chameleon? Schwarzenegger is a RINO. He hasn't been a true Republican since his second year as governor..
     
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    Of course the last thing you want to do is admit the voting process was illegal in several swing states.
    Oh so you are privy to all the election data and willing to testify under pains of perjury, fines and imprisonment that trump is trying to steal the election, or that biden did not?
     
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    you must be referring to the kleptocracy?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I just watched....very powerful and true.....now just watch as Arnold gets denigrated , insulted, vilified, criticized by PRO-NAZI factions...





    I have no idea what your "kleptocracy" ...and don't care.

    My post stands firm and true.....and thank you for an opportunity to repeat it...
     
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    Of course the last thing you want to do is admit there is no evidence that the voting process was illegal anywhere.

    STILL have seen no evidence (real world actual evidence)
     
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    The process was legal. In America, the legality of something is determined by the courts, and the courts have not ruled the voting process illegal.

    So there’s that.
     
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    LOL...so ya can't find anything wrong with his excellent speech so you attack the messenger....LOL.....desperation at it's finest...
     
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    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    Winston Churchill

    Im sure it does in 'your' mind.
    Now if you could only support it with facts youd have it made!
    The burden and obligation, like it or not, rests on the creator of the system, the guv to prove a political process is true. This can only be accomplished with witnesses from all parties involved agreeing upon a fair process that is not the case. Only state legilatures can change the voting process NOT the cdc, governator or anyone else, as has been done under the guise of covid.
    Witch burning at one time was also a legal process, your point?
    So was slavery, your point?
    for may years they did not rule witch burning to be illegal, your point?

    75,000,000 people disagree with many processes statists advertise as 'legal'.
     
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    bought and paid for, he wasnt even capable of getting his own countries history correct, let alone ours.

    To the contrary the evidence points strongly to election fraud, democrats are now in control, so who will be capable of proving otherwise in this wonderful we the gubmint kleptocracy??
     
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    You claim the voting process was illegal....I'm sure it is in your mind.

    Now if only you or ANYONE could support it with facts and evidence you'd have it made.


    Saying something is wrong does NOT make it wrong...


    ANYONE was FREE to take their evidence of voter fraud to court and THEY DID NOT...…..
     
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    That's a great point on net energy and carbon capture. One way that might work is forest planting and logging and replanting. Young growing trees suck up a LOT of carbon.

    What I hate about these guys that want to sequester carbon out of biological zone, or block sunlight is that while I'm unconcerned about rising carbon levels, in fact, I welcome them for their fertilizing effect, I do fear an ice age. 20,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. How in the world would 7 billion survive that? We can migrate south, with falling oceans exposing more land, but that's all land that was recently under salt water, and it's going to be very difficult to flush that salt out so that it will grow crops.

    Fortunately, that's a problem that is likely 3-4,000 years off, but, maybe not if we start reflecting sunlight and sequestering carbon out of the life zone where living organisms can access it. Carbon is the foundational molecule for life. You do not have a single cell in your body that isn't based on Carbon that at one point was CO^2 molecule.

    But, there is much the Left and Right can cooperate on that are far more important than endless fighting over what we disagree over:

    We have radioactive waste in leaking rusting drums stockpiled and leaking in WA state.

    We have old mines with toxic heavy metals leaching into ground water.

    We still have lead paint and lead plumbing in inner cities that need to be upgraded with lead free materials.

    We coal burning by products that need to be captured at the smoke stack.

    We have industrial/agricultural chemical and waste that needs to be sequested and dealt with at the point of generation.

    We need gobal accords to keep plastic and heavy metals out of our oceans and folks who pollute, we should add tariffs to their goods and keep increasing them until either they are out of the Free World's markets or it's in their financial interests to clean up their act to the point where their trade is more profitable. If you see Pacific Wild Salmon priced cheaper than you expect in the stores, make sure it's West Pacific and not East Pacific. I wouldn't eat any fish that are caught off the coast of China.

    I've thrown enough on the table to take the rest of our lives, and these are all worthwhile endeavors that probably would enjoy 70% support. I'd like to see us focus more on what we agree on, with substantial accomplishment, than endlessly fight about what we disagree on with little accomplished.

    I suspect that even Arnie would agree with that.
     
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    Politics is not supposed to be religious, however in america its been religious since this countries inception. Its complete cognitive dissonance to believe this country has not established itself as a religion and is merely branded as secular.
     
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    You were the one who claimed the voting process was illegal. As I pointed out, there is a system for determining the legality of something - the courts.

    The election was legal. Biden will be your president.
     
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    FALSE, they are only the people that take an 'official' stand for the record, which is now falsified on many levels.
    Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can 'determine' the legality of something.
    We even have juries sometimes, or do you feel they are not qualified to judge the law and the facts?

    Chief Justice John Jay—the first Chief Justice of the United States—instructed the jury as such: ... The power of judges and juries is as it was at the founding of this country, and courts across this country have recognized the power of jury to decide the law as well as the facts of the case.Jan 18, 2018

    Juries Judge the Law As Well - Law & Liberty


    I dont recall the kleptocrats changing that, got a citation for your claim that the buck stops at the courts?


    Biden may end up being president, but that doesnt make it any more legal than dubya 2's election.
     
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    ..... didn't waste my time even listening to his speech.
     
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    it was bought and paid for! lol
     
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    There is a slim chance that a special prosecutor, if he can survive the purge, might get to the bottom of it. Otherwise you can kiss our constitutional republic (and your ass) good-bye.
     
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    Well there are so many ways to cheat in our voting process now and its been getting easier all the time, that there is no way to recover from it. We have 2 parties singing from the same podium, both more concerned about their profit provision in the constitution than the people. Absentee voting was a very small percentage, rarely enough to change an outcome of an election, and mail in voting is outlawed by several states for the very good reason that its so easy to cheat, they knew that, whichis why they made the laws in the first place. Today however they want to steal the voting rights of the people with impunity, thats exactly the case! Then since we now have only a 2 party system, they dig in their heels to protect whatever perception is put into the public because its there team that won. There is no independent oversight, and several swing state refused to allow republican overseers to witness the process.

    They depend on people to stubbornly dig in their heels for their party and treat like a football team, meanwhile they are undermining the laws designed to protect the vote, which is a coup designed to eventually take complete control of the voting process in this country.
     
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    the only one trying to steal the election is Trump... and the republicans caught voting for dead people
     
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    Thats why state supreme courts are making illegal determinations reserved 'strictly' for the legislatures.
    Apparently you have little respect for either law or the legal process.
    IDC which party is at fault, our voting process in america is wrought with corruption.
    Back in the dubya days, totally open to the public, people downloaded diebolds firmware right off their servers, this allowed hackers to go in and change the vote to anything they wanted, which they did in less than 10 seconds.
     
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    fake news
     
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    So you dont know the difference between news and law either, noted.
     
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    I know fake news when I see it
     

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