Attack Against Christendom

Cite where I said that, or did you just make that up? I suspect you're talking about wars, like what we did at Hiroshima, a big difference from abortion being birth control for lazy promiscuous women, which it often is.

 

I'm assuming you are a Christian who believes that the Bible is the word of God. Am I wrong? If I'm right, then you can't categorically say that infanticide is wrong. No, it isn't like Hiroshima. The Bible involves God commanding the murder of children, ordering people to specifically target and kill them. He specifically, according to the Bible, ordered people to murder children.

 

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What do the rich right-wing anti-abortion family values Republican politicians and talk show hosts do when their daughter rapes an elementary student and gets pregnant? THEY GET AN ABORTION!!!

Elementary school teacher Mary Kay Letourneau was the daughter of State Senator John Schmitz (1970-1973), the famous right-wing 1972 Presidential candidate and was as popular as George Wallace. Schmitz ran on a Family Values platform until he was busted for having two children out of wedlock with a student named Carla Stuckle. This sex scandal came to light when Carla was suspected of abusing a boy fathered by John Schmitz named John George.

Mary Kay Schmitz, hosted a California television political commentary program called “Free For All” and is considered a prototype of Rush Limbaugh’s right-wing, anti-abortion extremist radio broadcast show.

Mary Kay Letourneau was married to Steve Letourneau and also had their first child out of wedlock and was forced to marry. Mary Kay Letourneau later became pregnant by her 13 year-old student named Vili Faulauu that she raped.

So all this anti-abortion talk is just talk to appear self-righteous.

 

The slavers like Washington and Jefferson started the Revolutionary War because they thought that the English were going to abolish slavery in the Colonies. That was the first slave war with several more afterwards. The Baptists split up because the Southern branch wanted to keep their slaves. And the Jews financed most of the transatlantic slave trade, especially to South America. The Mexican Catholics ended slavery without a shot being fired in opposition, which is why the Americans who had invaded the Mexican territory of Texas revolted and stole the land from Mexico.

 

You're dodging the fact that Canada has no laws against abortin, AND they have a lower rate than we do.

And, requiring victims of rape and incest and those carrying babies with significant permanent health issues is not acceptable to me.

And, please remember that it is the method of reducing abortions that I see as unacceptable.

I'm more than ready to push other methods. So, don't keep telling me how "sinful" it is. I'm really tired of your stubborn inability to hear that.

 

America-hate and anti-Semitism all in one post, wow. Didn't Mexico steal the land from Spain?

 

I never said the word 'sin' in my post, it is immoral just as any other murder is.

 

The Bible doesn't show objections to slavery. It also doesn't show objections to terrorism (such as Jericho) or genocide (Midianites). Mainstream Islam opposed slavery very early on with it's ban on Muslims ever being held as slaves - not a full measure, but certainly a major move against slavery.

I'm glad there have been Christians who have opposed slavery. But, let's remember that Christians have been happy with discrimination against those of various races - imposing serious hardship based on no more than skin color.

Both those ideas are just monumentally illogical. The colonies were highly religiously exclusive and were just fine with slavery. Calling that "better" can not be justified - unless one accepts the principles of white supremacy.

Nobody is "promoting" homosexuality or abortion.

I've pointed that out to you on several ocassions now, and you've continued to have NO refutation.

The vast majority of Americans would like it if there were fewer abortions. They would WORK for that.

Yet, YOU think that means they should LIKE or even WANT more laws against women!!

Sorry. Laws against women is NOT an acceptable approach. And, there is evidence that it isn't the most effective approach, either.

 

The Catholic Spanish stole the land from the Indians and slaughtered them and destroyed their culture and religious artifacts.

 

Do you know where Spain is?

 

You keep dodging.

I get your view. I do NOT agree that laws against women are required to reduce the number of abortions.

The fact that you see all abortions as immoral doesn't mean that others agree with you and it also doesn't mean a law is justified.

 

It takes a human reality that God didn't really approve of, like divorce, and makes it more humane. The brutal Southern race based slavery knew no such humanity, slaves were property. Both the Old and New Testaments prohibit kidnapping/slave trading, which US slavery was based on. Again, the anti-slavery movement began in the Judeo Christian West and no place else, and Islam has slaves TODAY. You could argue Roman slavery was ended by Christianity also.

There was no genocide, they were wars. Remember Hiroshima?

Sure they are, they're promoting the gay agenda in public schools, which I define as the attempt to normalize perversion.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Democrats won't let us do that.

I'm not asking for laws against women, over half the victims of abortion are female.

 

I reject your premise that laws protecting life are anti women.

If the majority someday does or of the SCOTUS does it will. Opposition to abortion isn't going anywhere.

 

You know why they made Constantine a saint? Because he killed his son and wife.

Those heresies were eliminated, violently. Violently persecuted, to be precise. Now what did Jesus have to say about that?
Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me.
John 15:20,21

Maybe those heretics were closer to The Truth.

 

Slaves ARE property. That's the primary point in the definition of the word.

And as I pointed out, slaves went from being property to being subject to racist brutality, including in the most Christian regions of our country.

No, the Israelites slaughtered Midianite men, women and children. The slaughtered the prisoners they had. According to the Bible they slaughtered absolutely everone they could - except for virgin girls whom they divided between the Israelite generals.

And, Joshua slaughtered every man, woman, child and animal in Jericho - a city state separate from other populations.

Promoting equality among citizens is what America stands for. Calling that an "agenda" is ridiculous.

This is a flat out LIE. And, YOU know it.

Democrats are NOT opposed to working toward fewer abortins.

The majority of Americans (not just Democrats) ARE opposed to attepting to do that by writing laws against women.

There ARE other methods, and the FACT that you refuse to even consider that is clear evidence that you have some agenda other than reducing the number of abortions. Is it partisan politics? What is it that motivates you to refuse to consider other means? Why should I take you seriously when you refuse to consider more than the harshest method possibly - even when it's clear that other methods work better?

I would have that that pure sophistry would be beneath an honest Christian.

 

You're STILL stubbornly refusing to catch a clue.

 

Much like the unborn are considered today. There were OT limits to what you could do with your 'property', unlike US slavery. A lot of OT slavery was voluntary indentured servitude for a time, many US settlers were in the same situation.

And hundreds of thousands of Christians died to end slavery.

Explained here: https://www.gotquestions.org/Midianites.html

It wasn't because they believed in a different god that they were killed, Muslim style. Not explaining why Israel went to war against them is sort of like talking about Hiroshima without Pearl Harbor.

Sorry, but two men marrying does not equal a man and a woman.

Absolute bunk, the lie is yours, not only aren't they doing that they extending this grisly thing to include partial birth and late term abortions. Joseph Mengele would be proud.

Another lie, only 25% think abortion should be legal in all circumstances, and a majority call themselves pro-life: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

Other methods for what?

I have no clue what you're talking about.

As the Bible says, in the latter days men will call evil good and good evil.

 

You're no longer thinking.

You can't remember or responde to what I've said about working together to reduce the number of abortions.

Your religion does NOT demand that their be laws against women as the only method of reducing the number of abortions. And, you know that.

 

Well if that's what you were told, then who am I to say differently. They also said Constantine was so brilliant, that he could foresee the fall of Western Rome 200 years in the future, and this is why Constantine established his New Rome on the Bosporus. Believe it or not!

What historians such as Gibbons did, was discard everything written that was beyond their comprehension. As an example, when Constantine outlined his New Rome, his companion asked: "Haven't you made the city big enough?" And Constantine's response was: "I will stop when the angel in front of me stops."

The Byzantine Empire is the only empire to survive for 1,000 years. Let's see how long we will survive?

I don't know about heretics being persecuted, but I do know that Islam started off as a Christian heresy, and it still exists.

As for persecution, for 300 years Christians were either thrown to the lions, or set on fire to light up the stadiums. This depended of course, on the inclination of the emperor at the time. Yet Christianity grew, as it always does during persecution - thanks to the sacrificial love, prayers and miracles of the Saints and martyrs.

Which proves that an abundance of love for one's fellow man, will always conquer hatred and malice.

 

Susan Smith drowns her two children (not fetuses) so to marry her boyfriend while her stepfather, Republican leader Beverly Russell of South Carolina and Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition, was molesting her. Susan Smith was raised in an upper middle-class "Christian" family by one of the most famous Conservative fundamentalist leaders in the country, Beverly Russell. Susan Smith upset over an ended love affair drowned her two children by driving her van into a lake and then claimed a "Blackman" did it.

 

No, my point was that whatever you accept as Christian dogma today was brought to you by the blood of those who believed the opposite yesterday. Who am I to complain? Jesus said: " Whenever you have a doctrinal dispute over this religion, whoever kills the most will have my blessings as the True Faith."

 

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Then that's what Jesus said. And I had thought it was this:

 

Baptist Rev. Donald Fosse's sex offender history concealed by church leaders. There are 700 victims of sexual abuse in Southern Baptist churches in the last 20 years according to USA Today. The popular American Christian Fundamentalist Rev. Tony Leyva personally victimized over 800 children alone.

Protestant and Catholic churches both have this problem. Catholic churches are more centralized and the pattern is clearer than in the many diverse sects of Protestantism.

 

Father Feit was arrested in 2016. This is a new case to add to my collection of American Christianity, and its disguising hypocritical self righteousness.

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Feel lonely and want companionship? Jesus can set you up with a Filipino wife for a small fee. Guia Cabactulan, 59, Marissa Duenas, 41, and Amanda Estopare, 48, are members of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, the Name Above Every Name (or KOJC)--it's just like American Christianity except Jesus is Apollo Quiboloy who claims to be "the Appointed Son of God." And the name looks good on a corporate jet.

Jesus, or should I say, Ouiboloy was running a "Non-profit charity" bring in children from the Filipinos and forcing them to beg on the streets in Los Angeles, adults formed sham marriages, and attended fake schools of which there a many in the United States. Ouiboloy would hold his victim's passports, or vistas and force them to donate to his Christian charity. Hey, this looks like American Christianity more and more by the moment because....M--O--N--E--Y!!!!! THE GREAT GREEN GOD OF ALL AMERICANS.

Jesus, or Ouiboloy collected, extorted--and only 'Jesus' would know--$20 million dollars according to the FBI.

The religion business is so good here in America that it attracts fascists and mafia from all over the world because they know what America and American Christianity is all about--and do they!

The spiked fence is to keep the devil out. The FBI got involved because Jesus was horning in on Pence's turf.

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