California Fleeing: Democrats delude themselves about why their state is losing people

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  1. spiritgide

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    Forgot to add the footnote about being a paid political spokesman for the cause. That's ok though- we all recognize it.
     
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    If population is comprised of mainly senior citizens as Japan is presently becoming everything declines in value especially real estate. Japan has hundreds of empty homes just sitting rotting in place. Without population growth our country will slowly shrivel up and die.
     
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    I WISH I was a paid political spokesman!!!!
     
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    That’s for sure.
     
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    Really. My god Jeff, we've been over this countless times. I'm your neighbor. I have an ex with family in Fortuna. I've been through Redding dozens of times. It's a city.

    Fortuna is a rural town.

    My ex rode her own Harley. Great riding up there, once you get out of Redding. We'd go up through Lassen Park by way of Susanville, take 44 through Redding to 3 through Hayfork (the Trinity county fair is badass) and around 36 to Fortuna. Grizzly Creek campground is good for a night or two. The steller's jays are great showmen.

    You live in a city Jeff. A small city, but a city nonetheless. If you want to live on the farm, move to Hayfork.

    Trinity County Fair - Fairgrounds & Event Center
     
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    The first half of my childhood I lived on a small one in old Shasta 3 miles west of Redding. It was sold when my grandmother died. None of it survived the Carr Fire. Also in 1976 Redding annexed county land to its south Bonneyview and to its east Enterprise doubling its then population and tripled its size. To this day there are still farm and forest lands within those annexed areas. We are incorporated as a city and have been since 1888 some 16 years after the town was founded in 1872. Next year will be our 150 yr mark. We still see ourselves as rural in outlook and vote accordingly. We sell ourselves as a tourist and relocating to destination a lot due to the rural sites and things to do all around us. Personally I like having so much beauty and so many things to do within an hour drive and still having enough town here to never really need to go to the Sacramento or the Bay Areas.
     
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    Lol. It's true. It's always been this way. Immigrants have always been needed, and there are always people to complain about them.
     
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    Yes, our area of the country is beautiful. I think you underestimate the urbanization you're experiencing. That the city is surrounded by farmland is irrelevant. The entire corridor from Redding to Sacramento through Chico and Yuba City has been urbanized. Sure, there are plenty of orchards surrounding the residential areas, but the residential areas have traffic that rivals Sacramento. 99 is busy with commuters all along the route. Raised on a farm, you obviously know this. Wishing away development doesn't work. Though Reno has always been a city, 40 years ago we thought ourselves a cowboy town (which is where my user name is derived from). Can't say that now. You're headed on the same path.

    Redding population:
    1980 42.1k
    2021 94.6k

    Redding, California Population 2021 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs) (worldpopulationreview.com)

    This is rural:

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    Lots of things are needed- salt, rain, fertilizer- but too much is always a problem rather than a solution.
     
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    That's why we have a free market.

    It would be a simple task to satisfy market needs while controlling immigration. Nobody in Washington wants to actually accomplish that.
     
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    That is true, especially in the current administration. On the longer term, I don't know of any government effort that was really designed to succeed and well executed- or without being loaded with compromise and waste. Simple? No. Too many politicians see simple as a losing strategy. You can't hide the pork in something simple, too easy for people to see it.
     
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    Isn’t it interesting how liberals demand/strive for equality of outcome—aka, pretty much everyone achieving the middle class.

    yet everywhere they’re in control the exact opposite happens: the rich get richer and poor live in the streets tossing hypodermic needles around.

    The middle class? They get destroyed by taxes and higher costs of living and prices of basic goods.

    Stellar job Libs
     
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    My sister and her family live in Roseville/Rocklin so I’m familiar with the route though I alway take 70 through Oroville and Marysville until it meets highway 65 rather than stay on 99 through Yuba City to Marysville. 99 from Sacramento upto Red Bluff is much more rural than south of Sacramento to Bakersfield on that road is. I-5 from Woodland to Redding and Redding to Oregon is quite rural.
     
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    If you’ve voted Democrat ever and fled California is because it got too expensive, like my neighbor across the street, then you’re a sack of dung. You need to move back and pay for the crap you voted for.
     
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    Then you've seen what I'm talking about. 40 years ago Roseville was out in the sticks. Not any more. Urban sprawl has engulfed the central valley. Yes, the San Joaquin Valley has grown faster than the Sacramento Valley, but the fact is, while the state loses population, Redding is growing.
     
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