CDC: 2 More Infants dead following Covid Clinical Trials

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are the lives of a few babies if it will help save older people?

    (sarcasm)
     
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    This is from the article.
    Eleuthera, have you found any more on this anywhere? I wonder what they mean the child's death was going to happen anyway. Why would the family be told that?
     
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    You got scammed by fake news dude, again.

    So some anti-vax MORON submitted a work of pure fiction and far-right conspiracy theory blogs used that lie to perpetuate their own lies about the vaccines. Eletheura, friend, please consider taking a step back from the Alex Jones's and the Lew Rockwell's and whatever other collection of tinfoil hatters who have been feeding you these lies and myths and falsehoods about anything and everything COVID. Their so called 'reporting' is even lazier than the non-sources they cite and just as easily deunked. If you pull away even for a moment I know you'll see it too.
     
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    I find this suspicious solely based on a personal experience I had. I won't go into details but the summary is someone at work committed a crime against me. I reported it. I was questioned by an investigator and some leaders in the community because of the person's position. When all was said and done, the incident was ignored, I lost my job and they basically framed it as a non-event.

    So, I ask myself why this particular entry in the VAERS report was found to be false? Is it that it is false or is it a political nightmare for that entry to be left in? Do they do background checks on ALL submissions? If not, why was this one done? What safeguards are in place to prevent fake reports? How does the public discern which entries are valid and which ones aren't? What prevents anti-vaxxers from bombing the site with fake reports? I'm not saying it's all a lie. I'm just saying that back-pedaling on this specific entry seems questionable.
     
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    it is not necessarily false, but VAERS does not in any way tie the death to the vaccine or the trials.
     
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    That would still make it false (meaning the entry itself is not accurate). Regardless, I still find it questionable simply because it's in their best interest to deny or distance correlation.
     
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    You misunderstand the point of the database. It does not in any way, shape or form, attempt to tie any vaccine to any death. It is merely a list, nothing more.

    And it is in the best interest of the Anti-vaccers to create a correlation that does not exist.
     
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    I don't disagree. I'm just concerned about the validity of the "fact check" in this specific case.
     
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    I hear ya, I am not a fan of fact checks of any sort. The VAERS specifically states this....While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
     
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    You and I both can only speculate.
     
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    I've been thinking about it and I can't come up with anything that makes sense in that context. ;-(
     
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    Perverse amusement by myself. For the last year almost every death logged was attributed to covid, and there are so many examples of that I've lost track.

    Now that adults and youngsters are being injected with dangerous experimental drugs that kill some quickly and maim many, to suggest that the dangerous experimental drug killed an infant is dismissed by MSM as conspiracy theory.

    MSM makes a big deal about 1 child dying by way of a Peloton machine, but is silent about the deaths of youngsters by way of the Frankenstein injection.

    Truth is stranger than fiction.
     
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    My understanding of it is they couldn't make a direct correlation between the vaccine and the infant's death. In that regard, it makes sense why it would be deleted.

    My question is HOW do they know it was *not* related? For me, that's a huge question mark.
     
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    I'm a cynical bastard at 73, so there is no question mark at all.

    Give a baby an injection of a dangerous drug and he dies soon thereafter. Joe Friday, Columbo and common sense would have that figured out pretty quickly.
     
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    I loved Columbo. ;-)
     
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    One more falsehood from you. Less than 15% of the deaths in 2020 were attributed to COVID
     

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