Censorship of non-conspiracy discussions

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  1. The Sentinel

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    I've noticed that on many forums, not just this one, they've been censoring discussions about the possible origins of the virus, even when they're not conspiracy based. For example, it's entirely possible that the virus could have been produced in a lab for (non-nefarious) medical research purposes, and something went haywire with the safety and security protocols. People trying to shut discussion about this down often cite the canard about how scientists who examined the virus concluded it couldn't have been man-made. But that's not what they concluded at all. They only concluded that the virus wasn't altered from a specific set of previously known corona viruses. For some reason, simply acknowledging this fact and trying to correct misinformation gets you lumped in with the conspiracy theorists.
     
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    Everything is possible. That's not a point worth making. The point worth making is: what is the evidence?

    If there is evidence that it was produced in a lab, even if it were accidentally released, then provide it. But speculating on it, well, we can waste a lot of time doing that and get nowhere. But, my research indicates that this has been looked into, and discounted. I forgot where I read that, though.
     
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    You really can't conflate conspiring to commit a crime with conspiracy theories.

    Life is full of items in a series that share a common term but are not related. It falls under some logical fallacy principle, somewhere.
     
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    No conflation involved here. I'm just breaking down the term "conspiracy theory" to its components. There is no doubts that conspiracies occur. If there is enough evidence to take it to court and the court finds that there -was- a conspiracy, then it is no longer seen as a conspiracy theory. It is simply seen as a conspiracy.

    There are numerous cases of conspiracy theories that, over time, have come to be simply viewed as conspiracies. Business Insider magazine goes over a few of them here:
    https://www.businessinsider.com/5-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-2015-6

    The bottom line is that, without the dedicated work of journalists and others that were willing to go down deep dark holes, where the truth is hard to discern, we may never have learned the truth in these cases.
     

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