China coronavirus: Death toll rises as more cities shut down

Looks like they have a treatment that might work, just FLU and HIV drugs. Way overblown in my opinion as well, although flu and a severe cold(like this virus is) can kill.

 

The doctor mentions this in the video. I suggested the Japanese flu drug, Xofluza—it stops some corona viruses from replicating. But the general idea is the same, modify an existing anti-viral drug to stop this virus from replicating—it’s the replication that causes the cell damage that spreads the infection to other cells.

 

Just reading that Uber suspended the accounts of over 240 Uber riders who rode in 2 cars of drivers who transported a suspected coronavirus carrier.

Edit to add that this is in Mexico.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/uber-suspends-240-users-accounts-over-possible-virus-084112130.html

 

Well, when you see this, I become a tad concerned as China doesn't ask for help.

 

I read something over the last few days that this virus is easier to catch (so expect more cases), but less severe than SARS or MERS (so more full recoveries and fewer deaths). Hopefully they are correct on the 2nd part of the assessment.

We also have to hope that is doesn't mutate.

 

That's what worries me as it moves from host, to host, to host, it has more opportunity to mutate, unlike SARS or MERS.

 

That it has moved from animals to humans is always a concern. The other thing is that people with SARS were not contagious until they were showing symptoms. Apparently this Wuhan virus is contagious before any symptoms appear. We had a lot of people moving around China and traveling from China to other countries well before any checks at airports were happening.

 

Also interesting.

China's drone army fighting coronavirus: Farm, police and personal drones are repurposed to spray disinfectant over villages and cities hit by killer virus

 

That's interesting. My first reaction though is "probably not effective". Sounds like a "feel good" from China to signal to the people that they are doing something.

We had several states here in the U.S. spray outdoors mosquito killer to combat the Zika virus. That killed the carriers of the disease. I don't see how just spraying disinfectant outside does any good if they have bats and wild animals transmitting the disease to humans. It doesn't sound like they're spraying anything that effects the host animals.

 

San Francisco is really screwed .

"The discovery of the Wuhan virus, dubbed 2019-nCoV, in the fecal material of the 35-year-old man treated at the Providence Regional Medical Center Everett in Washington is “interesting," said Scott Lindquist, the state epidemiologist for infectious disease at Washington’s Department of Health.

“That adds to the knowledge about this," he told reporters on a conference call Friday. “It’s not only excreted in your respiratory secretions, it’s also secreted in your stool."
Researchers don’t yet know how exactly 2019-nCoV spreads from person to person, but suspect it’s most likely from coming into contact with virus-containing droplets that could be emitted by an infected person’s cough and transferred to their hands or surfaces and objects."
BLOOMBERG, Coronavirus lurking in feces may reveal hidden risk of spread, By Jason Gale, 01 Feb 2020.
https://www.livemint.com/news/world...eal-hidden-risk-of-spread-11580556507678.html

 

I feel better now. ABC News’ Megan Hughes reports Trump claimed that his administration has “pretty much shut it [Corona virus] down.” Look at your children and elderly parents and believe this stupid outrageous lie.

“In the spring of 2018, the White House pushed Congress to cut funding for Obama-era disease security programs, proposing to eliminate $252 million in previously committed resources for rebuilding health systems in Ebola-ravaged Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. Under fire from both sides of the aisle, President Donald Trump dropped the proposal to eliminate Ebola funds a month later. But other White House efforts included reducing $15 billion in national health spending and cutting the global disease-fighting operational budgets of the CDC, NSC, DHS, and HHS. And the government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund was eliminated,”

 

I'm immune to the coronavirus as I only drink domestic beers.

 

I have an internet friend that's in Shanghai right now. He posted a pic from a restaurant and everyone was wearing a mask. Don't ask - I have no idea how the eat.

 

11 confirmed cases now with 2 of the cases person-to-person in the U.S. versus people who have travelled to China.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/202...-person-transmission-confirmed/5131580747448/

 

This is "close to home" now. My boss was out on a job site at a retail strip center. He called in to the office and was saying that there are three Taiwanese restaurants in the center. He said the employees he saw going in and out this afternoon were all wearing those surgical masks. I wondered if they or their family members had travelled to China for the annual tourist festivities.

 

Here's a fairly comprehensive chart on the WuFlu which is being updated constantly.

https://www.wuflu.live/

 

Guess you missed the article where CNN complained that Trump's viral response team was all white...

Cause that matters.

 

It's good Pittsburgh can help out:

 

Since the USA has proclaimed the Coronavirus "beaten down", we need to be very thankful!

In China:

The Coronavirus infections are now doubled now every 4 days.

The death rate has risen to 2.8%. It is expected that the death rate will rise both by catching up the toll the counting the dead and by the deaths that are 2nd order issues like without food, water, no care for those who are sick from the virus itself and all the other reasons people can die from not having care care in times with no health care or medicines. (A heart problem, appendix inflamed, and every other illness that would be little trouble in better times.

China and Taiwan manufacture 70% of disease and surgical masks are unavailable of large parts of China. Large shipments to other parts of the world are likely to be critically unavailable for a long time to come. China manufactured much of other health and medical of supplies as well. Allocations will be an issue as well. I purchased some surgical masks (real ones, not toys) 2 weeks ago, one of the last last places I could find had some, at only at triple the full retail price.

Anyone of the worst areas are commanding to go to quarantine areas to stay. That does not been seeming to reduce the illness, or maybe it is and it would be worse if people just do what they want?

While many people seem to think having wildlife around is causing such of the illness, experience in several quarantined cruise lines have experienced increasing illness going from 10 cases to 60 cases in the cruise line. Similar increases seem to be in general population.

The doctor who sounded the alarm over the Coronavirus late in December was reportedly doing well after contracting the illness. However, he died yesterday after several weeks. He was not an old man.

But I personally was wondering if, in the unlikely our leaders were in any in way in error on whatever secret, magically way were were all just supposedly "just find", is there any way the USA would would do better without adequate health supplies, the 2018 critically shut down of CDC and pandemic prepareness preparedness, and significantly reduces in medical facilities in the past 3 years. Why are Americans immune to this potential issue?

 

Yer dreaming, Team USA if you believe that the USA alone has shut this down. Trump is an idiot...yet again.

 

Cruise ships are huge incubators for disease.

 

..but the on-board chiefs are looking at a possible cure using hypodermic noodles........

 

Without truth there can be no freedom. How can one make a free choice if the choice is based on a lie? Lying is a form of coercion and force. The reflex of this administration is to lie first no matter what.

Pulitzer Prize-winning science journalist Laurie Garrett Laurie Garrett reported today:

In another report,

The authoritarian government of China persecutes all whistle blowers who have to give up their careers to tell the truth. China is still arresting people for commenting on the epidemic. The repressive United States is no different. Today, the Trump administration is purging Lieutenant colonel Alexander Vindman for reporting corruption by Trump.

In Florida’s Department of Environmental Protection, it is prohibited to use the terms “climate change,” or “global warming” in any “official communications, emails, or reports.” The pictures you see from China of people laying in the street could get the photographer arrested. Medical supplies are being horded by market speculators.

There is a reason why incompetence is bad. And there is also a reason why lying is bad.

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Is this really an intermediate host:

 

Thanks for showing Laurie Garrett report! Her impeccable science and her books are so clear and informative, and show a picture of why we should be paying very close attention!
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Indeed, China's helped the world dodge a bullet with SARS and avian flush, but the clear evidence that temperature monitoring is not going to work very well is the ingrown human response of "Gee, temp monitoring worked in the past", but it will probably won't work very well this time. The authorities can't be blamed too much because there is nothing else to do. You can't monitor large groups of people easily with sensors like this, this pandemic will have up close and personal, by the time high temps tell us some is wrong with a person it's too late to prevent a a greater spread of disease (more than 1 person made sick by one host) means it grows inexorably.

(I allowed my Foreign Policy subscription to lapse in difficult times, but she alone is worth of the price, $15.99 per month, to me right now.)