Corona Virus Update

No I don't think so. How would know that they're gullible or extremely stupid people? What's your theory on this?

 

How would you know that?

 

Horse puckey!

Religious love to come up with reasons (excuses) for racial wars, lawlessness, looting etc. in the past and right now by our President! He himself has promoted and sanctions for lawlessness even for the very authorities supposedly in charge of the laws that Trump ignores!

Many (supposedly) religious people are preaching chaos and instability WHOLESALE!

Yes! This is very true!

Republicans and religious people need to return to the Christian and Constitutional Principle that these espoused, at least partly, before the sellout days of Ronald Reagan.

Funny how day by day, our Republican leaders and President simply ignore 100s of thousands dead people and call it a "hoax", every effort that would have helped reduce the problems of the pandemic has been ridiculed and sabotaged and minimized!

In WW2, when we were attacked, our President and Congress came together and produced huge numbers of tanks, bombers, fighters, munitions and sk much more!

Now, our President and Republicans Congress say that our states are "on our own" for supplies for even the most simplest things like good and effective masks, which is still not supplied and are charged 10 and 100 times costs as Americans fight over lifesaving PPEs while people needlessly die and get sick! Thank God the Chinese are "stepping up to the plate" with reasonably priced supplies while our "great industrialists" are trying to make anything work, or are converting cotton pillow scraps into pathetic "masks" which are poorly effective and nearly useless, but hay! They put good selling advertising logos or "MAGA".

America is becoming a joke around the world with America's clumsy excuses and failures!

 

Whatever has happened in the past may be true but it also may be not true at all, since here is no way to verify your claims.
All I know that modern progressives put my life in danger, so I do not understand why should I trust them.

 

Do you ever think why this COVID-19 isn't getting any better? We're supposed to do things expected of us as the people wanting to stem the pandemic. The governors of the states are trying to get us to do the right things. If they say to wear the mask, we do it; If they say to keep our distances six feet, we do it; if they say to quarentine ourselves and stay home if we're sick, we do it; If they say wash hands 20 seconds and/or use hand sanitizer, we do it; we don't touch our faces if we can help it. There are other things that we're supposed to do to combat the pandemic and we should do it. It was bad in March and it isn't any better in July. Let's do what we're supposed to do in August and we'll stem the pandemic the best we can. Simple as that.

 

It is getting better, the number of deaths is declining. Coronaviruses live along us for hundred thousands of years and people are getting sick and die every year.
There is no reason to support that hysteria.

 

You think so?

 

Yes. We were doing really well there for awhile, but, people needed a haircut and a movie AND don't want to wear a mask, so now, by all the metrics we've been using, our numbers are climbing again. In some cases, higher than the peaks we saw in April & May. I'm starting to believe that team-no mask is also team-no Trump. They seem to want this to linger and linger and go on and on and on. They can stop, now, if things keep going on this trajectory , we're in this until Spring 2021, long after the election.

 

Why should not I?
The deaths excess is withing moving averages.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Yes we had spike in March, April, May but deaths rate was much lower in January and February.
Let's see what will happen in September and October.

 

Uh.....

By your standard, much lower in January was 2-4K below average.
For July, it's 4,000 above average.

 

You have to look at moving averages.
We are within norm, and excess deaths is continue to go down since June.
But like I said, we have to wait until October to make an assessment.

 

4,000 below is "much lower," but 4,000 above is within range?

LOL. I'm not sure that qualifies you for the mental gymnastic olympics, but it's a contender.

 

Why don't you learn what the moving average is?

 

I'm going off the graph you supplied. If you would like to post the chart that proves your point, now would be the time to do so.

 

The point was about moving average.
If you do not understand what the moving average is I can't help you.
I am not going to fall into hysteria you are promoting.

 

Sigh. I know what moving average is, but it's not on the chart you provided. I'm using the data on the chart you provided, which shows deaths have been above average since the end of March.

You are comparing a specific data point for earlier in the year, and refusing to acknowledge specific data points since March.

 

COVID-19 has cleared streets around the world for months now, which has drivers in the United States poised to reverse a growth streak that has lasted for more than six decades, experts say. Similar to the airline industry, the pandemic's impact has severely depressed auto travel, and experts believe it will take some time for traffic to return to pre-outbreak levels.

At risk is a 60-year streak of uninterrupted growth in "vehicle miles traveled," or VMT, among Americans, according to report last month by industry analysts with the KPMG consulting firm.

In a 19-page report titled, "Automotive's New Reality: Fewer Trips, Fewer Miles, Fewer Cars," analysts concluded the pandemic has greatly accelerated two formerly low-key economic forces that already were driving down driving -- working from home and online shopping.

The health crisis, the researchers said, has so firmly reinforced those trends that significant and permanent reductions in VMT are on the horizon and could result in profound consequences for the auto industry and other segments of the U.S. economy.

 

If everyone who is due to die in the next four years died this second the moving average in a four years time frame would not show that all the sample died in the first second of the 4 year frame. Hence a moving average is not applicable as it does not show those that died earlier than expected

 

OK you did some research. Fine. You win.

The next few months may be better or worse. We don't know what things will bring then. We'll have to wait and see.

Like I said if we do the right things like we're told, we'll have it better, if not, brace yourself for the worst.

We'll know whether the worst is over or yet to come.

 

Quarantine has a lot to do with it.

 

Here's something from California and COVID-19 update

California Gov. Gavin Newsom held a coronavirus press conference Monday and highlighted some good news. He also issued a warning about the state’s future with respect to COVID-19.



Newsom announced a total of 5,719 new coronavirus cases in the state for a total of 514,901 confirmed cases since the pandemic began. That’s a much lower daily number than some of the record-setting totals seen last week.



"The overall trend…is showing a decrease from where we were over a week ago," said Newsom. "But one week does not make the kind of trend that gives us confidence to generate headlines. We are looking forward to that and need to see another few weeks of this kind of data to come in to feel more confident about where we are as a state."

They must be doing something right here. Think about it.

 

Another pretty good day today with numbers back in the mid 6's.

As @Richard Franks said, the lowest day in a long time for California.

Also for Arizona.

Hard to tell about Florida with the hurricane.

A little down tic in Georgia.

Texas numbers after missing yesterday.

 

Fourth of July gatherings, graduation parties, no-mask weddings, crowded bars — there are reasons the U.S. has racked up more than 155,000 coronavirus deaths, by far the most of any country, and is fast approaching an off-the-charts 5 million confirmed infections, easily the highest in the world. This means that These summer gathering are breaking the rules when it come the COVID-19 pandemic. They're not wearing the masks, They're not keeping distances six feet, They're not doing the things that would stem the Coronavirus. You could see why the pandemic is going up indtead of down because of it. It could get worse next year. I won't be surprised if thta happens. We have a President that says it will go away soon and it isn't. The thing is that he believes it and that's sad. President Trump lives in a la la land made of wishful thinking. I sure hope Biden lives in the real world like the rest of us and that's all I'll say at this time. more later. simple as that.

 

The sad part is that, as a lifelong politician, Biden does not live in the real world with the rest of us. He, as all politicians are, is above the law. He will likely take the disease more seriously, though. When that's the best I can hope for, it's really bad.

 

What I did were supposed to be facts and I think they are. If the numbers go up, people aren't co-operating and that's wrong. It's like going out in a dangerous storm and you're too sick to go out. Those who don't want to go by the rules during this coronavirus pandemic ought to stay home and stay there for a long time. simple as that.