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COVID-19 Research, Drug trials and Pathophysiology

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    Tigger2, Apr 3, 2021
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    It's the WHO chief who is dissatisfied. As are a number of scientists/physicians. I'm just an interested spectator.
     
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    Nastiness among the scientists:

    Nasty Discourse: German Virologist Slanders Renowned Harvard, Oxford, Stanford Scientists: “Pseudo-Experts”
    By P Gosselin on 9. April 2021

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    When the political stakes are high and science is relied on to form policy, then insults are the order of the day. It’s not exclusive to climate science. Now we are seeing it in the fields of immunology and virology.

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    The Michael Mann of virology: Dr. med. Carsten Drosten. Photo: Charite Hospital

    Last October, a group of leading experts authored “The Great Barrington Declaration“, where they expressed their “grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies” and advocated more “focused protection” and “herd immunity” instead of lockdowns.

    Insecurities and over-sensitivities exposed

    But for the virology scientists behind the draconian measures of lockdowns, curfews, cancellations, distancing, school closings, mask-wearing, etc., this was viewed as a direct attack. And, like in climate science, what got revealed were their inner insecurities and over-sensitivities.

    The latest is Germany’s leading virologist and COVID-alarmist Dr. Carsten Drosten. The German-edition of RT reports: “Pseudo-experts”: Drosten defames renowned colleagues from Harvard, Oxford and Stanford.” Drosten is a stringent proponent of strict lockdowns to combat the illness in Germany. . . .
     
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    A cloud of Covid variants circles the globe
    Mutations of SARS2 are roaming. Currently there are 19 million active (known) cases of Covid. Due to copying errors, mistakes are accumulating in the genes of the virus. It’s a relentless process of trial and selection. A trillion monkeys on keyboards blindly working its way around vaccines, and immune systems. To beat this, we need to understand it.

    Below is a map of known variants created from the samples which have had full sequences done. This is the remarkable “Nextstrain“ — an opensource tool. I have labelled a few clusters by their “country names”, (though we’re not supposed to do that. Let’s all say “WuFlu”.)

    The family tree of SARS-Cov-2 starts at the bottom left corner with two samples from Wuhan around Christmas 2019. This is called the 19A clade, which appears to have almost died out now, though there are still remnants left of this original virus in corners like Iran and PNG. Otherwise, the Wuhan 19A virus has been superseded by its children.

    The branches and time marches to the right.

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    Nextstrain: Latest global SARS-CoV-2 analysis

    The code for one full virus is 29,000 bases long and as best as I can tell, all the dots on the branches have been sequenced in full. At the Nextstrain page you can mouseover and click on every point to find out which lab and town the sample came from, and which mutations it has.

    Be aware the “tree” above is heavily shaped by the nations doing the most testing and sequencing. Australian labs pop up often, sampling the cases flying into airport quarantine. But India has done very little sequencing and Mexico even less. Some African nations have virtually none. So there will be thousands of invisible branches and strains that we can’t see above, because no one has tested them.

    The only reasons the Indian and Brazillian variants are not branching as much as the UK variant is because those variants haven’t yet dominated countries which do a lot of sequencing. That not-so-fortunately is about to change as smart wealthy countries have, daftly, let these variants in. . . . .
     
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    Congress is finally investigating the lab accident covid-19 origin theory
    More than one year after the outbreak of covid-19 in Wuhan, China, the virus’s origin remains a mystery, imperiling chances of preventing the next pandemic. Now, several members of Congress are responding to Chinese government obfuscation, World Health Organization incompetence and Biden administration neglect by moving to launch their own investigations. And these lawmakers insist on exploring the theory that the outbreak might be connected to an accident at a Wuhan lab.


    For a variety of reasons, no credible investigation into the origins of the coronavirus that continues to plague the world has taken place. Beijing has spent more than a year covering up the origin and punishing any country that dares call for an independent investigation. Chinese authorities undermined the WHO investigation so thoroughly that even WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus admitted that its team did not properly investigate the possibility of a lab accident origin and that more work needed to be done. . . .
     
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    Jack Hays, May 15, 2021
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    Bowerbird, May 15, 2021
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    Your opinion is noted. I'll stick to the documentary trail.

    ". . . .The following is a link to a paper which acknowledges NIH funding, and which discusses dangerous gain of function studies, in which animal viruses or human viruses are genetically engineered to add new traits which make the viruses more dangerous to humans. Senior Wuhan virologist Shi Zhengli is one of the authors. The paper contains the warning “the potential to prepare for and mitigate future outbreaks must be weighed against the risk of creating more dangerous pathogens.”.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/ (backup copy here).

    So I suggest Senator Rand Paul is on pretty firm ground when he suggests Dr. Fauci might have his facts wrong, on US funding for gain of function studies. . . . "
     
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    for someone who can seemingly read research you are conflating opinion with fact
     
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    I do not stray from the documentary trail.
     
    Jack Hays, May 15, 2021
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    What “documentary trail” all I can see are some conspiracy theory Twonks and a prime idiot
     
    Bowerbird, May 16, 2021
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    Keep an eye on the Aussie information as we are repatriating from India even if that in itself has hurdles

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05...vid-19-passengers-test-negative-lab/100142182
     
    Bowerbird, May 16, 2021
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    The linked paper acknowledges NIH funding, includes a Wuhan lab virologist among its authors, and deals with virus gain of function. Game. Set. Match.
     
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    How epidemiologists try to fool us with flawed statistical practices
    Posted on May 17, 2021 by curryja | 68 comments
    by S. Stanley Young and Warren Kindzierski



    Climate Etc. recently carried several insightful posts about How we fool ourselves. One of the posts – Part II: Scientific consensus building – was right on the money given our experience! The post pointed out that… ‘researcher degrees of freedom’… allows for researchers to extract statistical significance or other meaningful information out of almost any data set. Along similar lines, we offer some thoughts on how others try to fool us using statistics (aka how to lie with statistics); others being epidemiologists and government bureaucrats.

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    Judith Curry?
    The discredited climate change denier?
    Sorry, not credible.
     
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    When Judith Curry left academia, academic climate science was discredited, not her.
     
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    Jack Hays, May 18, 2021
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    She received money for research from oil companies.
     
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    So what?
    After leaving academia, Curry shifted to running the Climate Forecast Applications Network, a climate-risk consulting company whose clients include federal agencies, insurance companies, and energy companies.
     
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    Jack Hays, May 22, 2021
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    Why did Trump like this stuff so much? Did he have stock in it or what?
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, May 22, 2021
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