Dear Trumpers, happy now?

No one can be surprised at the place the country is in now.

Not never Trumpers, who saw an incompetent conman with no political or moral anchor run for prez on a platform of bigotry, bluster, and a deceitful populist message that he cared about the little guy. What a joke that is.

Not Trumpers, who seemed to relish in the idea promoted by white nationalist and former chief of staff Steve Bannon that the establishment needed to be burned to the ground. The greater the chaos, the greater the cleansing effect.

Steve has gotten his wish. Likely, in more ways than he could have imagined.

Don once said...........
“A lot of people live better without having a job, than with having a job. I’ve had it where you have people and you want to hire them, but they can’t take the job for a period of nine months because they’re doing better now than they would with a job.”
“You know what solves it? When the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell, and everything is a disaster, then you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be, when we were great.”

Perhaps that is what the MAGA motto is all about.

The question for Trumpists is.........is this what you hoped for when you voted for the Orange Clown? Divisiveness. Disorder. Praise for authoritarian leaders. Degrading the environment. Adding massively to the debt. Smashing institutional guardrails. Constant conflict. Incomprehensible dishonesty. Abuses of power. Damaging alliances.

Did you really think a man with a record of breaking things had the capacity or desire to solve America's problems? Was the con so complete he convinced you of that? Have you forgotten fixing problems.....not creating them.......is a prez's job?

Maybe this is what you wanted. Judging by how you defend all things Don it seems that way. But I can't help wondering if beneath the defensive posture there is a bit of regret. A creeping sense things have become too out of control and a reluctant admission you are to blame. That is a necessary first step to helping the country heal. To return a to sense of common purpose. The thing Putin helped Don get elected so he could destroy.

 

Ecstatic.

 

Your support of corruption and chaos is noted. I admire your honesty.........and am simultaneously frightened by it.

 

Your tears of unfathomable sadness are so salty sweet.

 

Ah yes the populist's pine for the good old days. That mythical past when things were better before liberals/jews/African-Americans/immigrants/women/gays/atheists (choose one or all) screwed it up.

Back when Trump was running I asked in an OP what point in time they were trying to get back to when they talked about making America great again. At what point in the past was America greater than the day Trump announced he was running?

Never, in almost any category. Household wealth in the US has steadily increased. There is no point in time where you could go back and find Americans economically better off than the day Trump announced.

The same applies to many other categories including crime. Trump sold a vague set of promises that he could not detail and has not delivered.

 

The hallmark of an expert conman.

 

And a Fascist.

 

That's a very charged word. I would say, at the least, he has unmistakably shown authoritarian tendencies.

 

As usual, you place all blame on Trump. The democrats were asking whether republicans would accept the Mueller report. The Mueller report said there was no evidence of collusion. The democrats couldn't accept that. Now they are looking for other crimes. Wanting to charge obstruction. Obstruction for crime that did not occur and which did not hinder the investigation. Wanting a copy of his tax returns because there must be a crime there somewhere. It is time for the democrats to give it up and get back to governing and quit investigating in search of a crime.

 

Not really. A lot of the blame goes to the people who gave a reckless fraud the power to wreak havoc. But not you (wink).

 

What is not understood on the part of yourself is that the united states did not actually vote for Donald Trump. It merely voted against Hillary Clinton. The same would have happened no matter who had made it into the republican ticket.

 

If you want to call me liar, have the guts to do it and knock of the cheap shots.

 

All we did was elect a president that liberals do no like

Liberzls are the one ******** in the stew

 

At some point in time the ecomony will crash the left will as per usual try to fix it again and we will have another decade of slow to know growth and the country will elect another "mad, corrupt populist" to try to repair the damage 10 to 20 years of misquided leftist stupidity has done and the same set of gooney birds will whine and cry about how this that or the other can't be done and he will do it any way and we will get another brief shot of prosperity before another version of leftist and neocon twits come in promising pie in the sky and pull the whole thing down again while loudly blaming some one else for their blasted idiocy and incompetence and feckless policy decisions. That's the rut we are in now. Fortunately this is likely my last trip on this loop the loop of staggering leftist ineptitude corruption dragging everything down to the lowest common denominator.

 

But...........if you put it in those terms.........the United States voted for Hillary by 3M votes.

 

That is an oft repeated defense mechanism, trying to justify voting for a nitwit because it makes people who love the country concerned about the direction we are headed in. Very odd.

 

Do you disagree with the constitution? It makes no difference how many more votes Hilary got.

 

Did I say it did? No, I did not.

 

That has nothing to do with trump... TDS at its finest

 

The murder rate in rate in 1957 was 4.0 vs 4.5 today. In 1957 a working class man could comfortably raise a family of 6 on his single income while his wife stayed at home. In 1957, the working man looked forward to a full pension at retirement and bankruptcy due to health insurance costs was nearly nonexistent. In 1957, capital hadn't yet figured out that it could export jobs and import cheap labor on a mass scale and labor therefor had the upper hand. In 1957, wealth inequality reached its nadir while it is reaching its zenith today. The most telling stat is that the suicide rate today is double that of 1957 (and growing at an alarming rate). This is the most stark proof that people of that era were vastly happier with their circumstances than we are. American civilization is fracturing and the middle class is now a minority for the first time in my lifetime and here you are PRETENDING that it has never been better.

 

Not even close to being true. The proof being that it never happened before.

 

Are you sure he didn't (wink)?

 

Not true, there have been other presidents that liberals didn't like. Bush comes to mind.

 

Whats different this time is that you refuse to allow trump to govern

 

Unless I'm mistaken he had control of Congress for two years.

If he wants to govern without control of Congress he needs to consider the wishes of the majority of the country, not just his base.