Democrats really have a two faced problem.

This is so pathetic.....we're going to be inundated for the next 4 years with this constant reality bending onslaught by die hard Trumpers, oathers, threepers, "new" conservatives, tea partiers, libertarians and alt righters regurgitating failed Trump/GOP policies.

 

Agreed. As have I said before; false equivelency is a pillar of right wing fake news.

 

LOL, sorry the reference I was referring to is this:

"No, I don't support a fence on the border," he said, while referring to the long border in Texas alone. "The fact is, it's 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso. Two things: How long you think it would take to build that? And then if you build a 30-foot wall from El Paso to Brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets real good." ...Instead, Perry said he supported "strategic fencing" and National Guard troops...

 

You all did it to Trump and us for 4 years. The crying was embarressing.

Complaining for me but not for thee.

 

You all don't get to complain after the left cried every time Trump had a spelling error on Twitter or played golf LOL.

This is a serious question. Why was it ok for Obama to build fences around little kids and call them cages? You all were upset that Trump used them so why does Obama get a free pass?

 

You all? I never complained about Trump's spelling in his tweets nor did I complain about his golf except to acknowledge the hypocracy of his complaints about Obama's golf...that Trump ultimatly exceeded by a long shot.

Before I answer your question, are you saying that you have fully researched the context of the "Obama" cages vs the context of the "Trump" cages? Do you think the circumstances are exactly the same?

 

Obama built the cages because illegal immigrants were flooding our southern border and he needed a place to put them. Trump used them for the same purpose.

I did not complain when Obama did it and I did not complain for Trump.

I don't like doing that double standard crap the left loves to do.

 

That rag tag capitol "invaision" was little more than the riots on the left coast where federal courthouses were attacked and police cars firebombed with cops inside them. Why didn't we see the National Guard called out then?

 

You are missing a lot of context.

Trumps policy was separating children from their families and holding the kids in seperate cages for long periods of time.

Obama put kids in cages who arrived without their parents and were held for short periods before transitioning to a different fascility and this was a temporary measure due to influx of border crossings; not established policy

You really aren't aware of the stark contrasts of Trump's zero tolerance policy vs the policies of the prior 3 or 4 President's? I would be glad to link the details of it if you have not, as it would also provide context for the whole family separation thing. Just let me know....or conversely feel free to link something that proves me wrong. I would be glad to take a look at it.

Thanks.

 

Studies do show that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than citizens. You are right about that.

As for your question, I've read it no less than five times and still can't make any sense of it. A gun crime is a gun crime, regardless of who commits it.

 

It's quite simple, actually...

 

I was not right considering being here is a crime. When they are here, they work for cash and don't pay income taxes.

As far as making sense, it is your own argument. You are on record supporting denial of second amendment rights for citizens who are least likely to commit violent crime.

How can you justify denying constitutional rights for citizens based on .001% risk, but support illegal immigration that carries a significantly higher risk of violence? It would appear that concern for human life is not a factor in that position.

 

Memes are great. Why think for ones self when it has already been done for you. If we have enough trouble, why invite more?

 

I agree you were not right. But, for reference, please quote from U.S. Code the law that makes it "being here" a crime.

False! Undocumented workers (so called "illegal aliens") pay billions in income tax. And also Social Security, despite the fact that most will never enjoy Social Security benefits. But this has nothing to do with this thread. Any particular reason why you are trying to derail the thread? Usually I have seen people do that when they run out of arguments about the topic being discussed. So I must assume my point has been made. Thanks for implicitly admitting it.

100% false! I am against private gun ownership for everybody (as I have said, with a few very qualified exceptions). I don't care if they're likely to commit violent crimes or not. Which, btw, as I have demonstrated above, has nothing to do with the 2nd A as originally written and passed.

 

They lost. I think we know how that feels in the political context. People gotta vent. Didn't we liberals do that for four years? It's just difficult to find a balance between remaining civil, and holding to the actual facts.

 

Strategic fencing? That sounds like an oxymoron to me.

NG troops? How silly. Don't we already have a Border Patrol? Who does Perry think we're guarding againat? Cartel militias? The people trying to cross the border are either desperately seeking a better life and are willing to work hard for it, or fleeing deadly conflict at home. They aren't armed.

Add a few dozen camera drones, with watcher/controllers in a nice air conditioned office that could be located anywhere. Much less costly than Trump's wall.

 

Trump did, in fact, deploy federal troops in U.S. cities last summer:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_deployment_of_federal_forces_in_the_United_States

Washington DC, Seattle, Portland, and Kansas City.

I would pay money to be a fly on the wall when you tell the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, the Oath Keepers, and the other groups who came to DC in January, geared up and ready for a fight they had planned, that you consider them to be "rag tag."

 

Your positions cannot stand up to your own logic. There is no way you can make a case that either position is out of concern for human life. We are more likely to be harmed by a cop or an illegal alien than a CCW holder.

 

They call themselves the Boogaloo Boys really? And they're supposed to be right wing Trump supporters? I think not. My gaydar is going off big time.

 

Like everything else, they used to be for the fences until they were against the fences. I don't have a problem with some fencing as long as they do take into account ecological sensitivity of an area when it might interfere with wildlife migration, is limited to areas where border crossings are known to regularly happen, and the fencing constitutes just one layer of a multi-layer border control method in the affected areas.

 

I would actually pay to be there when you tell them you think they're all gay!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogaloo_movement

 

Wrong. Obama gave families with kids a get out of jail free card thus leading to kids being kidnapped so illegals could get into America.


Trump found through DNA testing that up to 30% of these parents were not biologically related to the kids.

Do you support child or sex trafficking?

 

OK totally missed the point...again. But on a certain level, that's more entertaining for me!

 

Some gay biker gangs are conservatives and that's okay. We should welcome them but they should also know we will not support violence of any kind.

 

WTF? You are more concerned with a few hundred people in DC over the tens of millions of illegal criminals living in America and pouring into our borders?

Do you not care about sex trafficking, child trafficking, drug trafficking or the murderers and terrorists coming into America?

It's sad that people actually liked your post.