Democrats really have a two faced problem.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Feb 22, 2021.

  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    6,923
    Likes Received:
    4,269
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You have it all wrong. Very few people came there for a fight which included Antifa after tweets went out asking them to show up days before the event.

    The pipe bombs were placed the night before in areas with cameras and that is very suspicious to me.

    The woman shot while breaking a window and trying to get in it was next to a Antifa activist John Sullivan who tweeted for Antifa to show up.

    The cop who died had a stroke the following day from a blood clot and had no blunt force damage from any weapon or fire extinguisher.

    Trumps speech ended after the Capitol riot started and video shows Trump supporters screaming Antifa and trying to stop people from breaking windows as well as white vans with Antifa pulling up and witnises saying people who were not Trump supporters saying "we need to shake things up".

    I think Trump and his supporters were set up. They still have no idea who out the bombs there.

    Now Republicans admit they got in through a gate that the cops opened up with a guy waving them in. These people just took selfies.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2021
    ButterBalls likes this.
  2. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your first statement does not negate the claims of @Indlib.

    Regarding your second statement, please provide proof of that 30%, including where, when, and who did this DNA testing.

    As to your last, what kind of a question is that? You know that no one is going to answer that in the affirmative, so the only reason to even pose that as a question is so that you can publicly accuse someone of supporting the trafficking of children for sex. That's just nasty and you should apologize.
     
    Indlib likes this.
  3. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In fairness, you could reiterate said point instead of just snarking at me, but that's asking for something from you besides pompousness.
     
  4. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gay biker gangs? Please name one. I've never heard of that.

    Nice back pedaling, though.
     
  5. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stopped at antifa.

    Already fully debunked. Also, antifa is not an organization, it's just short for anti-fascism. There likely were such groups in DC that day, since the many Trump supporting fascist white nationalist groups broadcast their plan online for weeks, after Trump tweeted at the to be there that day for a "wild" time.

    The attack on the Capitol was carried out by Trump supporters. Period. Own it, deal with it.
     
    Grey Matter likes this.
  6. lemmiwinx

    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    8,069
    Likes Received:
    5,430
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pick one. They all hate Trump and love wearing leather chaps. You know who I'm talking about.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  7. Indlib

    Indlib Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2020
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    1,140
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If Obama caged children in the same way Trump did, which I believe was your contention, then how was Obama giving them a get out of jail card?

    The 30 percent number is exaggerated and is closer to 20 percent. This is also misleading in regards to sex trafficking. 20 percent of kids were being taken across the border with people other then their parents but that does not mean they were being sex trafficked. They could have gone with friends or whoever.

    I also would like you to explain why Trump's policy of family separation was necessary when the DNA tests only take 90 minutes to get a result?

    No, I do not support child or sex trafficking but I appreciate your textbook example of a red herring fallacy.
     
    Grey Matter likes this.
  8. Indlib

    Indlib Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2020
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    1,140
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I did not see this post till just now, after having just responded. Interesting how we roughly came to the same conclusions.

    Good post.
     
  9. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2017
    Messages:
    3,616
    Likes Received:
    1,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You're just parroting revisionist clap trap, Matt. The official records show that Dump was his own worst enemy. No one put a gun to his head to make all those boorish tweets, or make him pressure his appointees to do things that forced them in good conscious to resign, or make that dubious phone call to the Ukraine or make those bizarre claims and rants about election integrity that riled his base to lash out on Jan. 6th. The ONLY thing that saved his orange arse from full out impeachment was a corrupt GOP control of the Senate, WHO STATED PUBLICLY THAT THEY WOULD NOT CONSIDER EVEN A CENSURE OF TRUMP'S ACTIONS BEFORE ANY EVIDENCE WAS ENTERED INTO A HEARING.

    No one had to lie about Dump, his preposterous antics were almost stranger than fiction.

    He's done, and the NY courts and IRS are wait'in for him! Sweat it, baby....the clock's a tick'in!
     
    Grey Matter and Indlib like this.
  10. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,622
    Likes Received:
    22,929
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've already spoon fed it to you in post #28. Rick Perry originated the quote about [fill in the height] wall and the illegals will just get a [fill in the height one foot higher] ladder meme, which was used by multiple wall opponents during the political battles about it during the Trump administration.

    However as they say, explaining is losing, so if you required this amount of exposition to understand what was basically, a joke, I hereby withdraw said joke.
     
    ButterBalls and Sleep Monster like this.
  11. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2017
    Messages:
    3,616
    Likes Received:
    1,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ahhh, but as they say the devil is in the details.

    For 4 years people were pissed that a POS like Dump lost the popular vote but got in by the electoral vote....that and his deplorable behavior for the last 4 years. Dump's toadies are pissed because they've were told for over a year that if Dump lost it was due to a political swindle, noththing more. Dump tweeted, stated at any public address that the real Americans were being robbed, and they shouldn't let it stand. That coupled with his back handed reprimanding of violent white supremacist actions and the like resulted in Jan. 6th.

    Big difference from a bunch of rowdy protestors at Dump's innaugural city (who were roundly elected on sight) to a insurrection on the country's Capitol to stop a legal confirmation of Presidency....of which 2 deaths, several police injuries resulted.
     
  12. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How do you expect me to pick one? That makes no sense in light of my post saying I've never heard of that. You made the claim, you show the evidence.

    No, I really don't know who you're talking about. The only gay biker that I know of with anything association with Trump is the one in the Village People, whose song "YMCA" has played at many Trump rallies. I very much doubt that the guy is actually a biker, and probably not even gay.
     
    Grey Matter likes this.
  13. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I noticed he's made no effort at a reply, either. Typical.
     
    Indlib likes this.
  14. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm serious abou the pompousness. Most of your posts could use just a wee dash of humility. Your wording and the snarking at those who don't get your humor (which, btw, is mostly sarcasm, which doesn't translate at all well in a written medium) make you sound like a know-it-all, and I don't want to think that of you. Unless that's your intention? Which would be interesting, at least.
     
    Lucifer likes this.
  15. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL! I didn't mean the rioters! Sheesh! What do you take me for?

    I was talking about the many Trump supporters and general lib haters on this forum.

     
  16. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2017
    Messages:
    3,616
    Likes Received:
    1,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :dohtwo: D'oh! My bad.
     
    Sleep Monster likes this.
  17. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,622
    Likes Received:
    22,929
    Trophy Points:
    113
    All because you didn't get one joke? As I said, I've withdrawn the joke. It's in the circular file.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  18. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't get most of your jokes, hence the assessment. If I'm wrong, I apologize, but you do come off as a know-it-all, and I don't think I'm the only one who thinks so. If we were to meet face to face, we'd probably like each other, but as I said, sarcasm doesn't render well in a written medium.
     
  19. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,622
    Likes Received:
    22,929
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Well I suppose we're two peas in a pod.

     
    ButterBalls and Sleep Monster like this.
  20. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't we always notice our own disfunctional behaviors in others? ;-)
     
    Lil Mike likes this.
  21. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Actually, cages are cages. No false equivalency there! :roflol:
     
  22. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you're totally okay with Biden putting kids in cages?
     
  23. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    An excuse for open borders.
     
  24. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,931
    Likes Received:
    18,924
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How so?
     
  25. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,823
    Likes Received:
    9,350
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Here you go again.

    Do you think children in cages is a matter for hilarity?
     

Share This Page