Do you feel safe with easing restrictions soon?

I support Trump but I have some misgivings about the easing of restrictions so soon. We know so little about this virus and it's capabilities. It's like Russian roulette when it comes to who is infected but does not develop symptoms and who dies. It is erratic with who that is regardless of risk group and is defying those labels. I hate how this has turned everything upside down and it's only been weeks so far, many simple things have become impossible to do. I want my life back but don't want to risk it. Thoughts?

 

Everybody wants their life back. Unfortunately, the virus has other ideas.

One thing I would like to ask Trump: What's your plan for reopening the economy? Accepting 10,000s or even 100,000s of deaths as collateral damage is not a plan. So far, I haven't heard of any plan from him, except for the money side of things with the stimulus bill.

We recently had the semi-annual address to our university from our university president. He has a plan. For the university to reopen, they are developing capability to test every student and employee on a regular basis, including antibody tests. If someone has immunity, they can go back to work or class as usual. Otherwise, contact tracing has to be considered, if they test positive. That's a plan. How come a lowly university president has one, but the president of the US doesn't have one, except for self flagellation and attacking the opposition? The emperor has no clothes. Unfortunately, his fan base pretends he still does. How long will that last?

People have to feel safe to go back to normal. Trump ordering them to go back to work will not work, unless they feel safe. We have to come up with a strategy to make people feel safe again.

 

Depends on where you live. My state has about 8 million people, just over 1,000 are hospitalized, and 180 died from COVID. Each year we have just under that same number of elderly people who die from falls each month.

I think we can have a lot of people go back to work. We will all have to decide according to our living circumstances, paying attention to the ages and conditions of the people in our households.

 

I have an acquaintance who is providing antibody tests from his clinic. I haven’t been able to contact him to ask who makes the test and how accurate it is supposed to be. If we are going to use a test to get out of quarantine/social distancing it dang well better be accurate.

Perhaps we are taking antibody testing slow so we don’t mess it up like the UK. Just a guess. I’m frustrated at the slow pace even though I don’t need one and wouldn’t really benefit from one personally at this point. I’d sure like to see antibody testing get the economy moving again though.

 

I think we should start reoppenning when we peak. We've been shut down long enough to see the effects. When those effects indicate a consistant reduction in frequency of infection (i think new cases per day would be a good metric) then we re-open some sectors for a few weeks and look for an up-tick. If no uptick (or the up-tick is negligible), open some more.

This would prolly be best done on a city-by-city basis.

That would be the safe approach, anyway. I'm not opposed to just re-oppenning everything and watching, perhaps with a provision that folks can't be fired if they choose to continue to shelter for a while.

 

I would NOT feel safe re-opening my state.\

In the region that I live in, I would support ALL of the Great Lake states to remain locked down.

NY /PA /OH /MI /IN /IL /WI /MN should all stay locked down.

 

I don't feel safe because of Trump or his actions. His actions right now aren't helping. If restrictions were lifted I'm stilling remaining home as much as possible and spending as little as possible in case funding for my job runs out. It shouldn't be I don't want to imagine the worst case scenario.

 

I say give it "Not for my sake, I don't care!" but for those afraid I say 30 more day 60 tops if they don't come up with something to lessen the severity of this virus then let nature sort it out.. There is no use hiding from something that cant be eradicated simply by watching daytime TV and eating potato chips for the rest of your lives.. Come's a point when we all must face this demon and win or lose, evolve.. Even if there is a vaccine or antibody developed it will only lessen the effects and not guarantee survival for everyone,..

 

So what sort of plan is that, THE STRONGEST that have developed a immunity are allowed to reenter the community and the sick and vulnerable continue to be, banished to quarantine? I don't think you have really looked hard at this plan. The same thing will take place if you simply allow them ALL to enter the environment.. Only difference is you would allow natural selection to sort it out.. I say this because a very renowned oncologist in Utah explain that to me as my wife was finally given six months to live..

 

You actually don't realize that the governor of each state is in control of how his or her own state acts on the corona virus issue and whether or not the state's economy will restart? If worried then blame your governor. It's not actually up to Trump.

 

And? What’s your point?

 

He was addressing your concerns with Trump, when your state gov is who you should be aligned with..

 

Sorry for interpreting your post bro, no offence I hope

 

And? What’s your point?

 

Oh so you were just trolling then, I'm sorry, carry on ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

If you think so, then carry on with your day. Have a good night!

 

I say open the country.

The lockdown can only slow the spread but won't prevent everyone from getting it.

The lockdown did stop the hospitals from being overwhelmed. Now that they are ready, the lockdown is no longer needed.

If you are high risk, stay home but don't expect the rest of us to.

American and Chinese Democrats want the virus to do as much damage as possible. They believe the more the economy is destroyed, the better off they will be. If they could fix it all now with a snap of their fingers, they wouldn't snap their fingers.

 

Where I live, the governor signed a shelter in place Executive Order. Everybody around me acts like it's an opportunity to party and have a vacation. The county cops told me that they have no authority to make arrests. That say that is up to the State Patrol. That's like 850 officers for the state. We're in the top 5 for total deaths from Covid19. In places where social distancing, staying at home, and taking precautionary measures are the norm, the numbers of cases are dwindling. However, the numbers of people ignoring this and not voluntarily complying are setting the stage for the pretext of Martial Law.

All of you are at high risk. High risk people are mingling among all of us and can make you sick. I say you should do the right thing on your own and not let our country be defined as having the most cases of this deadly condition than anywhere else in the world. This is an opportunity for tyrants to say that self government doesn't work and that we cannot handle Liberty any longer. Those of you refusing to comply are giving the government a pretext to implement Martial Law. Is this the hill you choose to die on?

 

YOU are going to give it to US

 

Well someone is going to, well once you venture out of your domicile

 

Then stay home, wear a mask and gloves, and quit complaining. You won't get it then.

 

Yes
It’s about damn time

 

<Vomit> "100,000s of deaths," Irresponsible, groundless fearmongering, not surprised considering the source.

What a hideously bad plan. The "university" you claim to work for should pay a heavy price for such overreaction... if it even exists.

 

Virus is very benign to 80 percent who get it

 

I have some misgivings about ever taking anything you post on this forum seriously again given your massive spam of posts on this topic, all following similar patterns. As far as the transparent concern troll angle ("I support Trump," "some misgivings," "I want my life back but..."?) ROFL.

Spare it, you aren't fooling anyone, just trying to get a panic thread up top and push down ones that look unfavorable.