WALSH: George Floyd Bodycam Footage Is Out. We Weren't Told The Full Truth.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did George Floyd claim he couldn't breath and that he was going to die before he was ever on the ground? There are an awful lot of mitigating factors, including the autopsy, that are going to make a murder conviction very hard!



     
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    Hard to call this premeditated now. He had every chance in the world to just be arrested quietly and easily. If he just sat in the ****ing car like he should have, he'd possibly be alive right now. Then again, he said he has Covid, so he might be dead too. Combine a crap load of drugs in your system and ANYTHING can kill you. By the way, its official. Flyde wasn't killed by the cop. He was obviously killed by Covid, correct, since if you die with COVID, its the primary cause of death according to the MSM.
     
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    Ok I watched the whole vid. Here is my take... George Floyd was high as #$%&. Not just a little high, dude was ripped off his gourd. He is irrational, disoriented and has a total freakout meltdown when they try and put him in the car. Tox screen said he had 2x a typical lethal dose of Fentanyl in his blood plus like 3 other drugs. He was foaming at the mouth and saying he couldnt breathe long before they had to subdue him. Also, dude is huge! It would take several officers or a bullet to control him once he went crazy. Those officers tried hard to get him to cooperate peacefully. He was simply too drugged up to comply. So much so that they had already called the ambulance. He likely needed a Narcan injection to save his life at that point. Holy crap why wasnt this footage out sooner! All this bullshit could have been avoided. This totally blows the narrative apart.
     
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    The people who controlled the video are the people who control the narrative. It's not that difficult.
     
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    If only we had some kind of system where a bunch of random citizens, say maybe a dozen or so picked at random from the electoral register, could be presented all of the relevant evidence directly (rather than selected evidence presented through the lens of (social) media or biased sources). They could then get together in a room and work out what actually happened. It might take a little while to get sorted out but it should get as close as possible to the correct answer (rather than a convenient one) and isn't that what everyone wants? Isn't it?
     
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    Stupid, USELESS Keith Ellison may well have overcharged!
     
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    The act of kneeling on the back on his neck for 8 minutes was still outside of standard police procedure wasn't it?
     
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    I wouldn’t think so, though I don’t really know. If You control the head you control the body. I’ve kept my knee on the necks of insurgents in Iraq to keep them under control when detaining them. It makes it difficult for them to easily throw their weight around. It certainly doesn’t kill them. Something else did that. I’m guessing drugs.
     
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    I do agree, but given the autopsy findings I don't believe that "kneeling" was the cause of death. It could be argued it was a contributing factor. It just seems there was self induced factors by Floyd that put him on the brink of death. We've seen this before. The press presents one sided evidence, expounds on it, and sends BLM and Antifa into a frenzy costing a disproportional amount of destruction and death. They have blood on their hands. I just wish there was a way they could be held accountable. We are seeing the same actions that were used in the Russian collusion scam where evidence was omitted that showed another side. With freedom of speech comes responsibility and these folks are supposed to be professional. I'm tired of their one sided bias!!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    EXACTLY!! And our dishonest media needs to be held responsible!!! They are partially responsible for many more deaths than this one officer which, at best, is only partially responsible!
     
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    Early on I tried telling posters jumping onto the 'The cop is a murderer!' bandwagon that there is likely one HELL of a lot more to this than what we were allowed to see and hear as presented by 'judgement predetermined' leftist loyal media outlets.

    I pointed out that it was quite possible that the restraint technique of knee on the neck was one taught in Minneapolis' Police Academy . . . and it turned out that I was correct about that. I knew as well that there logically HAD TO BE other mitigating factors as well.

    So, none of this surprises me. From the very get-go this entire situation reeked of another 'Hands Up Don't Shoot!' leftist propaganda scenario.
     
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    No . . . it was in fact a restraint technique taught in the Minnieapolis police academy. That factiod surfaced about two weeks AFTER the collective Political Left decided to turn to violence and was totally ignored by all of this nation's media outlets.

    Oh, and there was no downward force being applied; which is another fact that the media ignores. It was precisely the same as placing a restraining hand on the neck, except that it's one hell of a lot harder for a rambunctious person to MOVE the mass of a leg as opposed to the mass of an arm. It's for restraining, and nothing else.
     
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    Advanced cardiovascular disease is what Floyd had. When you have it, something as benign as a cigarette, a cup of coffee, or minor exertion can send you to the emergency room. Floyd had caffeine, nicotine, thc, pseudoephedrine, oxycontin, morphine, fentanyl, and methampehtamine in his system. On top of that, he had the covid virus. Couple this with stress from being arrested, and his physical exertion preventing two adult men from putting him in the cruiser, which is probably the equivalent of running up ten flights of stairs. The knee on the back of his neck did him no harm. It was merely to control his head and torso. There was zero damage to his neck, no bruising of the muscles, no damage to the tendons or connective tissues, no damage to the cervical bones in his neck, not even a scratch to the skin on the back of his neck. The M.E.'s conclusion, the protests, riots, defund the police, the entirety of it all was a left wing conjob, exacerbated by frayed nerves from the covid lockdown. The left showed its you know what. They immediately threw LEO's to the wolves. Our system is a good system. It is the left that is out of whack, along with criminal movements like antifa and blm. Glaring shame on them all.
     
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    The conviction is going to be very easy. He did not restrain him using proper procedure. he held him down by the neck with three other officers present and he did not request their help in putting him in the cruiser. He killed the guy, I don't care if the guy was a rapist, it is not up to the cops to punish him, but to apprehend him. People that commit crimes are despicable to me, but they are still men. It seems like some of you want them to be the judge and jury also. Police in Boston are told when a person being arrested complains of medical condition, the paramedics get called to the scene not 10 min later.
     
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    No matter what you saw, no matter what was reported, the autopsy report suggests that kneeling on the neck is not what lkilled him. Do you pay attention?
     
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    Your emotional response to a video of a man in distress by his own hand and choice, the evidence does not support your contention.
     
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    As soon as the toxicology reports came out anyone without a brain knew that this wasn’t ordinary and it’s highly likely any other person in this situation would not have had any complications. I don’t agree with him kneeling on the neck for that long, but if it’s true his weight wasn’t being applied it really changes everything.

    The I can’t breath thing is VERY telling because just like hands up don’t shoot it is pure BS now. He couldn’t breath because he was completely strung out since you don’t lose your breath sitting in a car with the windows open. He was high as ****. They heard him saying he can’t breath the entire time so if he pulls that crap when he’s on the ground you have to assume he’s talking more ****. Hard to take anything a guy like this is saying because he’s screwing with them. He can’t breath? He can’t go in the car? He can’t sit? He can’t stand? Enough already.
     
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    ok just watched this. heres my take; it changes nothing.
     
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    Thats naive.
     
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    its not.
     
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    You can obviously choose to believe whatever you want. The facts however are at odds with the narrative. If you dont believe the facts well... Then there is something else at play.
     
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    The evidence in the video changes absolutely everything, as George Floyd was not merely, innocently, minding his own business and not bothering anyone. He was presenting a clear and present danger to himself and others, along with engaging in numerous felonies at the time of his arrest, all while physically resisting arrest.
     
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    You can obviously choose to believe whatever you want. The facts however are at odds with your narrative. If you dont believe the facts well... Then there is something else at play.
     
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    you know you have no argument when your own reply can be projected straight back at you.
     
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    I can kill anyone here by cutting off arterial blood supply to the brain for 8 min. Learned it in judo as a teen. Used in mma today. Once you pass out you let go or you kill the opponent.

    Why didn't the cop let go once the perp passed out? Stupidity?
     

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