Fauci: Republican vaccine deniers

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  1. gfm7175

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    "Medical fact" is irrelevant to your reasoning of which I am choosing to take to its logical conclusion. Answer the question.

    So we all have been guilty of "attempted murder" at one point or another pre-2020 whenever we've been sick and not worn a mask?
     
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    I firmly believe everyone needs to do their own research and make their own decision. I’m opposed to use of force or coercion to get people to vaccinate.

    I say this as someone who used physical force and violence to forcibly administer around 200 doses of vaccine yesterday to individuals who aren’t intelligent enough to know what a vaccine is. I suppose an argument could be made based on animal rights that my actions were incorrect—that I don’t have the right to force animals against their will for “the common good”.

    If we follow that thought further, do we have the right to force humans to do things “for the common good” against their will? If yes, then we are saying humans are equivalent to other animals in their value and in their inherent rights. Furthermore, if this is the case, and one person has the right to force vaccination on another, the vaccinee has the right to kick the vaccinator in the face or knock them down and stomp the life out of them—just like my animals had the right to do to me yesterday as I forced their compliance. It follows then that it’s just the law of the jungle and any talk about “common good” or “civilization” or having a moral imperative to get vaccinated is just BS. The vaccinator has no moral high ground.

    The alternative view is that humans are not common animals and have intrinsic value and rights to self determination. In this case it is not correct behavior to force compliance—the individual has the right to bodily autonomy.

    I agree if something is truly beneficial it can be demonstrated to be so—force and deception are not required to market it.
     
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    That post is pure unadulterated nonsense, a completely false statement. That sort of nonsense is the dogma of the Church of The Poisoned Mind.
     
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    Meanwhile the CDC says only about 5% of the China virus deaths are solely attributed to the virus alone:

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    Fauci: Republican vaccine deniers are hurting efforts to lift Covid restrictions

    Perhaps the Guardian is missing the point that Fauci has lost a lot of credibility lately because of his lies. Only the left is hanging on to his pronouncements. That tells me the Guardian has a left leaning agenda. I ignore everything Fauci and other government doctors say since they are affected by politics. Virtually everything they have said has been bad for the nation. I get the truth from my doctors who actually practice medicine and have no need for a political agenda.
     
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    And more likely none of them have been caused by the virus alone. I would bet all were caused by an underlying condition made more severe by the virus. It is no different that any other flu.
     
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    In many cases the spike protein ends up in the bloodstream and settles in major organs like the heart or ovaries. That has been the issue.
     
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    You don’t appear to understand what this unapproved experimental treatment is.
     
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    Some of us could read the deception on his face from the beginning. At a minimum, scientists caused this, and he tried to hide that fact by lying and calling people like me loons. I'm not the only one who can read dishonesty. It's Fauci's own fault for the distrust over the vaccine.
     
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    That's what they found in the autopsy in Germany. Apparently all organs except (oddly) the tongue and the liver were loaded with the spike protein.
     
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    That's completely insane. Your political leaders have really done a number on you, with the fake news and propaganda.

    The number of vaccine deaths in the USA is, to my knowledge, still _zero_.

    And no, lying like a rug about the VAERS data won't change that simple fact. The antivaxxers will still try, though. There's literally no lie they won't tell, no data they won't mangle to push their crank political beliefs.

    The sane people look at zero deaths from the vaccine vs the 600,000+ deaths from COVID, and the many more cases of permanent disability from COVID. Getting the vaccine is the logical choice.

    And by the way, you don't care if the vaccine is "experimental", so stop pretending you do. Once it gets normal FDA approval, you'll still find reasons to badmouth it.
     
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    We also encourage you and coerce you to stop at red lights.

    By your logic, that means you should run red lights at every opportunity.

    Your "If you're coercing me, it has to be bad!" reasoning here is profoudnly stupid.
     
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    Inoculation is not traffic regulation, and one is not being coerced or forced into driving a vehicle against their will as is occurring with these jabs.

    False equivalence. See above.
     
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    Fauci is an evil troll and well known liar.

    CDC: Few Pregnant Women Received COVID Shot. "Well, most pregnant women are in a low-risk demographic."

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/456352/
     
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    Your knowledge is extremely limited and poor. Many sources show you to be wrong.

    Here is one: A massive surge in COVID vaccine deaths - American Thinker
     
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    Guess what. Every dang day 260+ people die of the deadliest by sheer numbers preventable death in the US. And the death rate is doubling about every 20 years. Incidentally, the demographic that is most likely to mock hesitant vaccinees is the demographic most likely to engage in the behavior responsible for the most preventable deaths.

    As far as I know, there have been no deaths from abstaining from the behavior responsible for the most preventable deaths. Abstaining from this behavior is clearly the logical choice. Sane people would clearly abstain from this behavior.

    The selective outrage I’m pointing out here that is based on general ignorance and partisan politics both foisted on you by your political leaders has been an unceasing fount of fascination for me during the pandemic.

    I almost said “comic relief” instead of “fascination”. But that would be inaccurate. The selective outrage is not comic relief—it’s as sick and twisted as all the other disinformation and misinformation everyone swallowed whole over the last year+.
     
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    Wow, COVID is soooooo smart that it can target Republicans, eh? ;)
     
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    Being ill is not attempting murder... Holy bejeebus dude...
     
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    It is tiresome to hear the BullShat about what he said and did. Mostly from those who still think idiotically that "they don't need to wear a mask".

    Crapola is as crapola does - Covid 3 is waiting for those who still refuse to wear a mask.

    It's coming guys-'n-gals! It's coming. Be sure to take deep-breaths when it arrives ... !
     
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    I have determined that the guy lied from the beginning of this. He knew that there was a strong possibility that this came from the lab, yet he got behind that podium and said those saying that were nuts. He is still lying about the dangerous research we were involved in. The WHO also said live bats weren't in the lab. Now we have video that proves they straight lied to us.

    I find it inexplicable that anyone put the level of trust in this guy and these agencies that would allow them to inject something into their bodies because they asked.
     
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    Also please post the numbers that clearly show these paper masks work. Many of us in the flyover states never wore your masks. Entire communities all across rural America. It should be easy to show by now the difference in Covid casualties from say NYC vs small town heartland. Show me these mask deniers suffered for these decisions.
     
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    If they are willing to lie in order to conceal the fact that they screwed up and were involved in the release of the first man made pandemic in history, I believe that their dishonesty knows no bounds, including the risk or efficacy of the vaccine.
     
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    Waiting to be exposed to a population w/o immunity to it.
    Like that of planet earth.
     
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