Finland's Migrant Rapes Soar 157% in One Year, Whistleblower Speaks

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  1. kazenatsu

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    Police data reveals a massive spike in sexual crimes committed by migrants in the Finnish city of Oulu, after the authorities allegedly covered up a grooming gang scandal similar to the ones that took–and continue to take–place in the United Kingdom.
    The grooming gang scandal was revealed in December 2018 in the northwest Finnish city, victimizing several underage girls, including the repeated rape of a ten-year-old girl, and the shocking lengthy abuse led one girl to commit suicide.
    The revelation of the grooming gang scandal, despite pro-multicultural policies and narratives, rocked Finland.
    According to the data 3, rape offenses where “crimes in which the suspect is a foreign citizen” jumped 157.14% from 2018 to 2019.
    Finnish pundit Tiina Wiik spoke with National File following the publication of the data.
    She said: “In November 2018 my boyfriend leaked the information on social media about aggravated child rape investigations going on, that had over a dozen foreigners as suspects, and the police and local media had hushed the investigations up.
    “It turned into last year’s biggest news event, the Oulu grooming gang cases.”
    20 of the 29 arrested suspects were “men of foreign background.”
    One suspect, who was an Iraqi national in his mid-20s fled to Germany, where he was arrested but later released by accident.
    Following the original scandal, in a statement, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö said, according to The Daily Mail: “The right to integrity is one of the values on which our society is based, and one which must be respected by everyone here.
    “It is unacceptable that some asylum seekers, and even those who have been granted asylum, have brought evil here and created insecurity.”
    Before the revelation of the Oulu grooming gang scandal, Wiik said: “The Finnish government gave Oulu 2 million Euros as a sort of blood money to tackle the grooming problem. No results in sight.
    “Actually the city has only worsened the problem. When the migrant crisis started in 2015 and 2016, they started bringing migrants to visit schools and day care centers, and basically told the kids that they’re racist if they don’t befriend migrants.
    “Now when the city leadership is asked to take responsibility, they say it’s up to the parents to take care of their kids. The public institutions push this diversity nonsense at kids in every turn, then escape responsibility.”
    After the Migrant Crisis, the Finnish government had attempted to integrate some migrants into society by guilt-tripping the locals or dismissing concerns.
    She continued: “It even turned out some of the grooming gang members who were convicted last year were taken to a kids’ running contest to “integrate” (before they were arrested).
    “When said in the city council that this is absolute madness, that we don’t know who these people are, we were accused of fear mongering by other parties.
    “They’re all very quiet about it now.”​

    https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-finlands-migrant-rapes-soar-157-in-one-year-whistleblower-speaks/


    Finland has classes teaching Muslims not to rape women. Apparently they aren't working.

    Migrants arriving in Finland are being offered classes on Finnish values and how to behave towards women. Concerned about a rise in the number of sexual assaults in the country, the government wants to make sure that people from very conservative cultures know what to expect in their new home.
    Johanna is one of those energetic, animated teachers whose cheerful energy lures even the most reluctant pupil into engaging with the lesson. She uses both her hands to stress her meaning and she always softens any difficult points with a smile.
    “So in Finland,” she says softly, “you can’t buy a wife. A woman will only be your wife if she wants to be - because here women are men’s equals.”
    Her pupils, all recently arrived asylum seekers at this reception centre hidden away in the snowy depths of the Finnish forest, watch her carefully - and I watch them. Some of the young Iraqi men, who already speak good English and passable Finnish, nod sagely. Others, particularly the older men, stare at one another with raised eyebrows as Johanna’s words are translated into Arabic for them. One man, hunkered down inside his black ski jacket seems to be taking notes while there’s a faint smile on the lips of the only headscarfed young woman in the room.
    “But you can go out to the disco with a woman here,” adds Johanna brightly. “Although remember, even if she dances with you very closely and is wearing a short skirt, that doesn’t mean she wants to have sex with you.”
    A Somali teenager pulls his woolly hat over his ears and cradles his head in his hands as if his brain can’t cope with all this new information.
    “This is a very liberal country,” he says incredulously. “We have a lot to learn. In my country if you make sexy with a woman you are killed!” He turns to his neighbour, a Malian man of a similar age to gauge his reaction.
    “It’s quite amazing,” the Malian nods. “In my country a woman should not go out without her husband or brother.”

    Last autumn three asylum seekers were convicted of rape in Finland, and at the new year there were a series of sexual assaults and harassments similar to those in Cologne and Stockholm. Victims reported that the perpetrators were of Middle Eastern appearance - something Helsinki’s deputy chief of police, Ilkka Koskimaki decided to go public with.
    “It’s difficult to talk about,” he admits as we drive in a patrol car through the icy streets of the city. “But we have to tell the truth. Usually we would not reveal the ethnic background of a suspect, but these incidents, where groups of young foreign men,” as he puts it, “surround a girl in a public place and harass her have become a phenomenon.”
    The police van pulls up at a downtown reception centre where Koskimaki’s preventive policing team give similar classes to Johanna’s. A jumble of migrant men smoking on the snowy steps in flip-flops, hastily scarper indoors, clearly alarmed by the police presence. A muscly Iraqi man in gym kit approaches me cautiously and asks me in a whisper why I feel the need to visit the centre with three police bodyguards. Please, he pleads, please don’t think all asylum seekers are dangerous because of a few criminals.​

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35353310

    Yes, female BBC reporter Emma Jane Kirby: why do she feel the need to go to the asylum center with armed male bodyguards?


    And the government's solution to the rape problem?
    This one you have to see to believe...


    RAPISTS BTFO , Paul Joseph Watson, March 2, 2020

    " STOP. Don't touch me there... this is my NO-NO square. "
     
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    All hail progressism !

    They're much less agressive when the rapist is a refugee, a democrat, a woman or when the victim is a man.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear this happen. Let's hope justice is done.
     
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    When you say Migrants ... You mean Muslim Migrants ?
     
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    Not necessarily - the ones from middle and southern Africa are also Christians.

    Are they ALL rapists? No, of course not. And most find food&cover during winter. What they don't find is a job, and when that finally sinks-in, they go back to Africa. Especial nowadays with Covid-19 in abundance.

    Most of them are males in their early 20s who left Africa because parts of it are famished ...
     
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    It's more a cliche.
    First there is a wide gap between what is Europe and what African think of Europe. For african, Europe is the land of golden opportunies, which to an extent is true but many of them end to be disappointed when they come. What happens with Africa and Europe is quite similar
    to when people moved to California or the search of El Dorado, the search for a golden land.

    Furthermore, there is a lot of part of Africa where there is no troubles to find food.

    The youth of a population is particular factor of emigration. Africa is the youngest part of the world.
     
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    Why did you let them in ? ( You i mean Finland )..
    And if they illegaly entered, why won't you return them to their homes ?
     
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    What silly questions!

    Go ask the Fins. I don't live in Finland ...
     
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    :lol: :lol: :roflol: no no square :lol:
     
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    I did.
     
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    The above presumes you've made a study and asked "all Africans" what they think about Europe? I seriously doubt that.

    I agree, but what the "youth of Africa" does not understand is that migration requires the approval of the country-of-destination. And of all the African countries the most "legal" reentries into Europe from African "once colonies" are the English, French, and Dutch. The ex-French colonies have the largest proportion of both migrants and immigrants from ex-colonies - I hazard to guess.

    The migrants are only now starting to understand that they are illegal and need to go back and make application from their home country. Some assimilation into Germany (which is really hard-up for foreign workers) has been important as well ...

    PS: The best place to read about African migration to the EU is likely on WikiPedia here: African immigration to Europe
     
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    Sorry, I just discussed with some african people. I never pretended to have discussed with all of them however.
    I think it's great to want to be strict and rigorous in your way of thinking, but there is a wide difference between being rigorous and over zealous about studies.
    A study may be false because of the bias of the one who conducted the study, or because the sample is simply ill done.
     
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    Kazenatsu: "Finland's Migrant Rapes Soar 157% in One Year, Whistleblower Speaks"

    This is exactly the sort of outrageous Headline we DO NOT NEED on this forum.
    How many rapes "soared"?

    The facts of the matter, should anyone be really-'n-truly interested about Finland's rape-record, here:
    Instead of printing not-quite-the-right-truth why not get your "facts" right before blabbering into a forum ... ?
     
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    Look, what is happening in most of these instances is that the "migrants" are given shelter. Which means a place to live in winter that probably saves their lives. I know for a fact that Paris asked all those sleeping outside but under the numerous bridges this pass across the Seine to move to more proper accommodations (inside buildings). And they moved them in buses. I live in the boonies of France and have seen African migrants lolling about, so they are here as well.

    They will never likely get the ability to work in France - not with France's unemployment rate of more than 8% at present. Moreover, none of them have any real skills to qualify them for jobs in France that are not already occupied by the French themselves.

    And this is true for either African or Middle-east migrants ...

    PS: And the French try hard to accommodate them. That I have seen with my own eyes here in the boonies of France.
     
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    I'm anti migration, not anti migrants. For me the problem go further. I think that pro migration people have a very naive conception of the individual and it links to society. A society it's also rules. And you can't have a part of the population that think that blasphemy deserve death and other that value the right of freedom of mock religion as sacred.
    I don't appreciate that much Zemmour, but I estimate like him that there is a risk of civil war in France.
     
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    Ah, yes, silly me. There's a functional difference between the two!

    Migration is not going away. It is here to stay. Humans have been migrating since the dawn of time when the species evolved on earth.

    How we handle migration needs some rework, however. There is no way to handle migration in the present circumstance of BOTH high-unemployment rates and Covidè19 lock-down. The two require separate policies. The first is sufficient reason for either "jailing the illegal entries" or "their acceptance of a no-cost-to-them repatriation by air-ticket).

    They know that, but with Covid-19, France (for one) has not got around to doing much of it. The country is knotted with Covid-19.

    Moreover, there is no common policy as regards migration. Many of those arriving in Spain, it seems, also inevitably go north to France where there are already family members in place legally. (Most of the French left Algeria in 1962 when it became independent.)


    Sheer foolishness. Anyone who tries it is going to have a nice, long stay behind bars.

    All goes up in flames because some disagree about how to handle the surfeit of illegal migrants? I seriously doubt that outcome is of any real consequence. They've been trying to get in for a long, long time. And it aint that easy. Especially the "identity part" ...
     
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    Well, maybe not that hard. I just was chatting with a neighbour who employs them, he said, from time-to-time.

    He says he does it only sporadically because there are enough "families" on farms that just cannot "get it together" on farm revenues. The pay-scale in the countryside is really low. So, when they have a good year (and produce prices such as wheat and barley are high) they do make a bit of survival-money. But, not that much. So, why do they stay.

    For one thing, on their own farm (more than likely inherited) they have no real "investment to make". They just pick-up where their parents left off - and the parents are quite unlikely to be very far away. That is, they are still on "their farm".

    Life farming ain't easy any more. Not anywhere in Europe, that is ...
     
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    It's been a long, long time since I was at university. But when I was, I had befriended a good many Africans. It was the "thing-to-do" because even American blacks were trying to break-through. Which they have succeeded to do in a large part, but still not really enough.

    Anyway, it is shameful that the African blacks have not done better in establishing "Real Democracies". And, they have ha since a very largely time to do so. I cannot understand why - it seems there is a preference for turning a supposedly democratic election of a leader into someone who then thinks it's HIS TURN to make a megabuck, or two, or three ...
     
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    There is a very deep difference. I don't condone to cultivate resentment toward migrants. I don't approve them to be mistreated, treated in a violent way or left to drown.
    So yes, the difference is extremly important.

    Don't take it personnaly, but that's globally a very poor argument.
    First in many regions of the world, including Europe, it was managed to locate someone in function of their genetic legacy. So even if there was constant migrations, there was also a lot of stability.
    Furthermore, a lot of ancient "migrations" were more akin to invasions and went with a lot of violence.

    Not really. There is an increase of police car, even firemen care or even ambulances that are ambushed in the so-called "sensible" areas. Furthermore, even F.Hollande and G.Collomb, respectively former president and minister of security shared their fear of civil war.

    It's not about illegal immigrants specifically. There is people that consider themselves "fourth generation of algerian". The problem of the integration of non native european population go beyond that. There is no simple solutions to that.
     
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    Migration is a fundamental part of life. It's been happening since the dawn of human-time. In fact, just last night there was a TV-replay of a documentary in which actors portrayed two very different species of humans that met one another quite by chance. One group had come across Siberia in the north to central China and the other from a more southern migration via India.

    (Which, of course, is simply a supposition as to how humans "peopled" the earth.)

    They did not at all look like. But, what the picture was trying to portray, I suggest, was this: Both species were "human". Distinctively different visually, but both human-beings.

    Moreover, when they met quite by accident (which was inevitable because both groups were hunting) at first they feared one another. But, they recognised instinctively that they were both facing other human-beings and not animals. Anyway, this type of short "movie" tried to underscore the fact that though we are all different, we are still "human" and thus a distinct species of beings on earth.

    The movie made the point that all such distinctive species inevitably mingled to produce the human-being as it exists today.

    And as I recall, the movie (written by scientists who conducted studies of the origins of human-beings) did say that the entity of "human being" was perhaps 200,000 years old ...
     
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    Yes, BTW. In studies of prehistoric human, we have sometimes found seashell very deep in the land that suggest long travels.

    You will understand however that we're not speaking of migration as an absolute phenomenon, but there is also the issue of rates. In the middle age, you can find traces of some viking that moved to Constantinople and then ended to be part of islamic countries.

    In the same time, however there was the example of a genetic analysis that was made on a prehistoric being living in England and they found someone related to him near that place.

    It would be like declaring "the death of cells is not a problem, cells always die in the body, so it's not a problem", however when too many of your cells die.

    I don't deny that migration were always a things, but simply considering it as fate and something that can't generate heavy troubles is just false. When the romans came to Gallia, it was made in pain, when some gauls left their cherished land to be sold as slave in the roman colonies of northern africa, it was made in pain, when the huguenots were cast out of France and had to leave in Germany and England, it happened with a lot of suffering, when many germanic tribes settled in modern day in France, it didn't happened without suffering. The same for Turks in Anatolia, and arabs in hiberia.

    What's a country ? It's more the sum of the individuals. It's shared values, language, it's relationship between the individuals, there is also an ethnic aspect of that is more or less important according to the countries, but definitively play a role. Religion played a very important role in the formation of countries also.

    Put people from a radical different background, from an ethnic, religious, shared taboos, cultural point of view, and add old resentment to that and your country is falling apart.

    People who advocate mass migration often see a country as just people living under the same gouvernment and laws, but it go beyond that. A country isn't only composed of the people that live in, the relationship that those people have between them is as important.
    Anything that threaten those relationships may lead a country in confusion if not worse.

    I can't blame migrants for fleeing poverty and misery, but today, I think that Europe is heading right to a civil and religious war.
     
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    The Roman Empire, though bloody in its manner of forcing peoples it conquered to submit, was an economic power that lasted for about a millennium - or so say the historians.

    The US and the EU have a way to go to beat that record ...
     
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    That's my point, it was painfull.

    Considering US and EU, I heavily doubt they would survive the century in their current shape.
     

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