How is a $15 federal minimum wage connected to Covid relief?

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  1. RickJay

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    And for good reason, those areas are great places to live and have a high demand. High paying jobs, great services, the best healthcare, the best recreation, the best food.
    Can you live cheaper? Of course you can but then you have to live in a red state **** hole.
    Its all relative, earn a good living and live in a great place, earn a low wage and live in a bad place, either way you spend what you earn for the most part.
    The grass is rarely greener, or browner on the other side of the fence.
    Get over it.
     
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    My first job paid $10.25 in 2013 in Indianapolis.

    Worked third shift and went to college during the day.

    Granted I split rent with a roommate, and my car was a piece of ****, and I had no savings... but perfectly doable... and with no real work experience, it made sense.

    I make triple that not even a decade later. That's how it's supposed to work.
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Notice they leave out how many people would lost their jobs.

    "Raised wages!!"

    If that's the goal, make it $100/hr. We'll make everyone millionaires. It works like that, right? Why stop at $15 if the goal is to make it seem like poor people have more money.
     
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    Proving once again why the right tanks the economy every single time.
    They simply do not understand how it works, at all.
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    9 of the 10 highest net intake of movers in 2020 were Red states.

    Pretty soon, all that will be left is just you and all those people who don't pay taxes. Lol

    The taxpayers all moved to FL, GA, and TX.
     
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    Same old BS from the right but it never happenes, they just keep whining and repeating the lies.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    They'll spend it on drugs, drink, and gambling.

    Look up Ricardo's Iron Law of Wages

    "Bah, are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons?"
     
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    And like always they will move back. It happens in this country all the time.
    You get idiots that think 'look I can buy a house in in **** hole red state for 65K! I'm moving!
    Then they get there an sure enough a house costs 65K but the wages are so low you can't even afford that!
    And I have to laugh at the fake news BS that only the right pays taxes......geesus man, give it up.
     
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    Sounds like you're big mad you're the only one left to pay taxes. Lol

    I didn't say only the right paid taxes, I said a lot of the lefties in Blue states moved to red states, because, math. Those aren't poor people moving to FL and TX and GA and TN and NC.

    Those are wealthy Democrats dodging taxes, and homeless, and restrictive laws.

    It's a win for you, really, because your destructive voting happens begin to infect the red states they're moving to, unfortunately.

    Here ya go:

    Ain't nobody moving to CA or WA or IL or NY but immigrants and people looking for handouts.
     
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    You didn't answer the question, though.
     
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    Not mad about anything, I leave the anger and hate to the far right, they have enough for everyone along with all the lies.
    You have no clue who is moving where or why and how much or how little money they have. Stop with the BS that you can't back up.
    This is what is wrong with the right, you hear some crap on your media and you blindly swallow it, then you spew it out and think you are the worlds expert.


    So what? That says NOTHING about WHY people are moving. You ever hear of the 'baby boom generation'?? here is a clue for you, its a HUGE segment of the population and they are hitting retirement age. Another little fact for you, people move to the warmer states when they retire. Your little rant is meaningless.



    Back that up with some real facts, I dare you.
     
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    Ye of little faith...

    https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/wealthy-taxpayers-are-fleeing-these-states-droves

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...d-from-these-high-tax-states-during-2020.html

    Even to CNN, it's obvious. Obvious to everyone but... you.


    Ohio has warmer weather? Since when?

    Tennessee has warmer weather? Since when?

    Is it warm in Indiana? Lol. I've lived there, I assure you it's not.

    Are any of those places warmer than California?

    Keep dancing, it's entertaining. Your excuses are based on nothing but your denial.

    If it wasn't for illegal immigration, the population of the state of CA would decrease.

    That's not debatable. That's a fact.
     
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    Clearly. Thats why Illinois/Chicago, NY/NYC, California/LA are losing people in droves.

    Lol.

    I live in Illinois and Chicago. It is not all roses and sunshine like you claim.

    Urban liberal elitists like to make it sound like red states and cities are shitholes. Unfortunatley, cities like Nashville.

    The arrogance of the left about their utopian dream in defiance of all facts is amusing.

    Chicago has had 144 car jacking in 23 days. What a wonderful city!

    How about the left keeps their terrible policies in their own backyards and keep them out of everybody else's? Then we don't have to worry about the color of each others grass.
     
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    Well, I liked the first paragraph. You lost me on the Dems like free stuff, though :).

     
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    Again you offer up numbers but then you attempt to to conclude WHY.
    Lets see you back up your reasons as to WHY people are moving from place to another along with all the BS you claimed.
    You can't.
    But hay at least you tried, you get props for that at least.
     
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    Again, you make claims you can not back up.
    Prove that people are moving because of your political bias.
    You can't.

    Red states by an large are at the bottom of nearly every metric, wages, healthcare, education even infant mortality so yes they are in fact '**** holes'.
     
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    I'm not surprised, there is a segment of people that can't understand that COSTING more to produce simply increases the price of good they/we buy..

    Never mind, I'll not confuse any further, $20 dollar min wage for McDonalds, I'm sure the price of Burgers and Fries will not go up, in fact in the leftist world they should actually go down :nod:
     
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    What's great about job loses and higher prices?
     
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    Economics does. Where will a small struggling business get the revenue to double it's wages?
     
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    Which NEVER happen after rising the minimum wage but hey, who am I to stand in the way of a long tradition of spreading RW lies?
     
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    Already predicted and seen in the past and this is a DOUBLING not a few percentage points. So where does the money come from in a small struggling business? Explain the economic theory that says in a time of recovery and high unemployment increasing wages, the cost of employment and expansion, by government fiat is the correct and successful policy.

    Why do you oppose full employment and rising incomes across the board when proper government policies are instituted?
     
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    There's two articles right there that will tell you why.

    Try reading them.

    One is CNN so it should be acceptable for you.
     
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    Let me guess, people are bailing on California for warmer weather? Oh, wait.

    You are in denial if you don't grasp that policy's put in place by the liberal left have created unfavorable conditions that drive people away.

    hell, California tried to tax people for leaving.

    Ok. Cool. Then keep your terrible policies far away from there and let them remain shitholes. We prefer our version of shitholes to yours.
     
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    I can't understand voodoo economics where people believe that they can impose unfunded mandates on private business resulting in higher hard costs and that doesn't have a repercussion. It's like believing in unicorns.
     
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    I see, so you can't offer up any proof as to WHY people move to or from a state, you have nothing to stand on.
    Got it.
     

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