How is a $15 federal minimum wage connected to Covid relief?

yeah, that is what they said in the past too, was false then and is false now

$15 would help the economy, may even save it, but I agree with you, right now the economy looks like another 1929 coming

the only thing I have noticed, is the fed printing money like it was going out of style has not had the expected result, as other countries benefit from it too now due to so much foreign outsourcing and foreign imports

 

This is demonstrably false. Care to try again?

 

I do not support paying people less than a min wage.... that is what people are saying when they say we should not have the min wage

it just adds to the tax payers via welfare the cost of the labor

 

Not saying you are wrong but that seems counter intuitive. Do you have a link to a study or whatever it is that demonstrates a lack of correlation bt lower minimum and any type of government assistance?

 

I never said there was no correlation. The problem is with sweeping generalizations. There are no doubt MANY MW workers that are not collecting government assistance. Do you doubt this?

 

Well you do have illegal aliens to pick up the slack. Since they are not legal citizens they can and will work for whatever they can get.

 

Really? And the debt skyrocketing is a good thing also I am guessing?

 

No. I do not doubt it. Dealing in absolutes is nearly always foolish.

That said, I do believe there is a correlation bt the amount of people on minimum wage (and the the amount of minimum wage) and government assistance claims.

Admittedly this is likely offset a little bit by people who would be layed off due to an increased minimum wage. It is a pretty complex issue.

 

Its absloulty true.

Federal Minimum wage = $7.25

$7.25 x 40 x 52 = $14,967

Snap eligibility for a SINGLE person starts at $20,436


And thats only food assistance programs. Rent assistance in my state (Iowa) kicks in at $1275 per month

 

Trump spent more then any other President in 4 years, where were republicans then? During a supposedly great economy?

the truth is, we are so far in debt, we have passed the point of no return, inflation will need to happen to ever hope to pay it off

 

Sure, IF that's your only income. There's a huge population of people working MW jobs for supplemental income or as dependents. Those people would not be eligible for government assistance. I really hate your line of reasoning. It is NOT an employers job to ensure the employee has a "livable" wage. The employer makes the employee a job offer and the employee can accept it or not. We are all adults here.

 

I don't want everyone to be affluent but everyone who works should make enough to pay for basic needs. You should agree because I assume that you're against welfare payments.

 

No, its the governments job to set a livable wage floor. So your saying that its OK for taxpayers to subsidize employers ?

I am guessing you don’t support a $15 minimum wage ?

 

Ushering in a new era of hard working citizens, college kids (& illegals) that can NO-LONGER find employ at an arbitrarily / bureaucratically settled rate... Artificially moving the markers may work on a power point spread sheet in ones' 'Ivory Tower' & might even play well on the sycophant MSM soundbites... but doesn't necessarily translate into reality. Reality bites & all our asses are exposed on this one... (not just the ones taking home an hourly wage)

 

I clearly stated that it was not "just the D's", just that they were the biggest offender of such shenanigans.

There is a very long list of reasons why it's a bad idea. I believe I made a post about it here, and google is your friend, it'll probably fill you in much better than a post from little old me could.

I'm not. How about we start with slapping a tariff on Apple's iPhones to make the cost of making them abroad the same as what it would be here, thus giving them no further reason to NOT do it here in the first place? And follow that up, of course, with tariffs on all similarly situated products, to bring ALL of those jobs back to American soil? That's a much better idea than paying someone whose hardest task at work is saying "Do you want fries with that?", AND the resulting increase in wages above that guy, because who is going to take the hassle of being a manager when they can just flip burgers and make the same money?

 

Well, since one of the biggest reason these folks are getting hit harder by the virus is because their job cannot be done from home, simply raising their income is not going to do a thing about that. Not to mention all the other problems associated with the idea.

 

Or how about we let the laws of supply and demand determine what the "minimum wage" is, rather than some arbitrary law? If you work for me, but your job isn't worth $15/hour to me, a law that says I must pay you that is going to result in either you being unemployed, or you stepping up your game and becoming actually worth that money.

 

And what happens to the people who's jobs aren't worth $15/hour, or whatever your magic formula spits out? Employers are just going to over pay them out of the kindness of their hearts, and the resulting damage to their OWN wallets?

 

$0. Let the market decide, that way people who are only worth $5/hour can actually get a job that they are actually qualified for, instead of a salary that some politician just pulled out of their ass which can grossly overvalue some people's labor, meaning they won't have jobs at all.

 

the markets have already decided overall that raising it to $15hr had no ill effects. should be $30hr

 

That, and it's also a way to try to get rid of evil rich people by making them pay their workers more than they're actually worth. It won't work, of course, those evil rich people will do what they have to do to protect their own interests, but it is one reason the left wants it so badly. Getting rid of rich people is pretty high on their list of goals.

 

If that were true (and it's not) then economic laws would have already made the lowest wage you could find to be $15/hour. Or $30 in your fantasy world. In that case, having a law making it mandatory is not needed because there would already be nobody employed for less.

 

If a person is only capable of providing $1 worth of labor in an hour, why should they be paid more?

 

How is increasing government spending going to help ease a disease?

 

$15hr hasn't been around long enuf to determine that, and no matter what there's always going to be pain when making long due corrections.